No it is not. Safe mode is part of the operating system and has always
been this way.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 19/10/2012 15:02, william lomas wrote:
safe mode is not the bios is it?
i ahve been able to get in to windows safe mode option easily enough in the
past now if it can access the bios of a ocmputer that's what we need surely?
On 19 Oct 2012, at 14:52, "Martin G. McCormick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks for the information. One thing that occurs to me besides
the extra expense of all these commercial Windows screen readers
is that the user experience is not standardized for any of them.
If you get used to JAWS, for example, Voiceover is like
a foreign language and vice versa.
This is bad for the concept of ubiquitous computing. You
walk up to X and need to do Y and the people who spent time and
money making it accessible decided to use a screen reader one
isn't familiar with so the whole thing falls flat despite the
best of intentions.
So my question is, how similar are JAWS, Window-Eyes
and the Optiguide systems? I suspect they all do certain
things better than anybody else's product and totally explode on
other applications. They are too expensive to have one of each
and keep all those running meters humming along and they
probably install libraries and hijack interrupts that would make
product A kill Product B which is, of course, not acceptable.
That's the nature of the technology and I am not down on
anything except the concept of extra cost screen readers, but
other than that, how easy is it to move between the 3 or 4
commonly-used products?
Sighted users who are used to Windows can go fairly
seemlessly to a Mac because the GUI experience is similar but as
far as I know, every screen reader from Voiceover to all the
Windows products are all their own little world.
Martin
Chris writes:
I wonder if any of you have seen this. Got this via a tweet.
http://www.utechaccess.com/Products/OptiGuide/
=======================================
The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
worm-free
To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web
pages located at
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat
You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at
either of the following websites:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html
Or:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>
you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml>
---------------------------------------
=======================================
The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
worm-free
To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web
pages located at
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat
You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at
either of the following websites:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html
Or:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>
you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml>
---------------------------------------
=======================================
The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
worm-free
To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web
pages located at
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat
You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at
either of the following websites:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html
Or:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>
you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml>
---------------------------------------
