Okay, that makes a little more sense. Thanks for the clarification. Sent from my iPhone
> On May 26, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Because JAWS determines certain information via its scripts based on > highlight colors. So, for example, say there was a green dot to the left of > the message, now, granted, I'm just making up random colors here, but it > still proves my point. Say there was a green dot to the left of the message. > There would be an if then statement somewhere within the scripts that > basically paraphraising obviously, would say, if, dot is green, say Unread. > If, dot is purple, say read, else, say nothing at all. > > So, if you change the color scheme, then those colors that jfw has defined > can get kur whacktified, then it can start reporting weird things. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Gregory" <[email protected]> > To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:54 PM > Subject: Re: Very strange problem with JFW 15 and Outlook Express > > >> Pardon my ignorance here, but what with the color of a scheme have to do >> with how Jaws reads things? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 26, 2014, at 4:12 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> David, would you please look for the scheme? That would be absolutely >>> phenomenal! >>> >>> You can send it to: >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Thanks a million! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: "'Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:47 PM >>> Subject: RE: Very strange problem with JFW 15 and Outlook Express >>> >>> >>>> Years ago when I had my first copy of Jaws 6 whilst I was working I was >>>> told that my use of the High Contrast white on Black scheme would cause >>>> unpredictability and errors in my use of Jaws and that I should use the >>>> default Windows Colour scheme instead. >>>> >>>> As then I had some vision I was unhappy about losing this high contrast. >>>> >>>> The response from the Access Company supporting me was to design a custom >>>> colour scheme which Jaws could work properly with. Essentially this >>>> involved >>>> removing every instance of the black colour and replacing it with dark >>>> blue. To my eyesight at the time I could not really tell the difference >>>> but >>>> Jaws definitely worked better and spent less time for example reading out >>>> elements twice. >>>> >>>> Whilst they were about it I asked them to remove all the purple elements of >>>> the scheme and replace it with red which also make the vision slightly >>>> better for me. >>>> >>>> I no longer even turn the monitor on so I no longer bother with all this >>>> but the custom scheme did help me for a while. >>>> >>>> I may have it on a backup drive somewhere if you want me to sendspace it to >>>> see if it will help. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>>> Gilland >>>> Sent: 26 May 2014 20:02 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Very strange problem with JFW 15 and Outlook Express >>>> >>>> I have an old computer here running Windows XP Pro. I know, it's not >>>> getting security updates anymore, nor is supported any longer by >>>> Microsoft. >>>> >>>> I totally get it. I'm A+ certified, so trust me, I'm totally aware of >>>> that. >>>> >>>> I can't really upgrade it though as the hardware's too old. That's beside >>>> the point though. >>>> >>>> I have some usable vision. Not enough to read the screen, but I do like >>>> seeing when certain things pop up on the screen etc. For me however, the >>>> normal color scheme is terrible. You'll know in a second how this relates >>>> to O E, so just stick with me on this. I like using the high contrast dark >>>> scheme. This way, it's basically a high contrast with white windows and >>>> text, on a dark solid black background. >>>> >>>> The problem is, I'm having this really really weird issue where no matter >>>> what folder I'm in of my Outlook Express, If I up and down arrow through >>>> the >>>> >>>> list of my mail, or for that mind, hit my jaws key+numpad 8 to read the >>>> current line, or in this case, to read the currently focussed e-mail, I >>>> hear >>>> >>>> that the message is unread. It tells me this even after I've opened and >>>> read the message. I totally get that there is a setting in options of O E >>>> to specify how long the message must be opened before it turns the flag to >>>> read, but that isn't the problem here, trust me. When I am set on the >>>> Windows Standard color scheme, this problem doesn't exist. It's only >>>> happening with the high contrast dark themes. I've tried it with both of >>>> them, and both have the issue. This is occurring both when the main O E >>>> window is maximized, as well as when it's not maximized. I'm not showing >>>> my >>>> >>>> preview payne, although, just for a test, I did turn it on temporarily, and >>>> that didn't fix the problem. The other thing that is weird as all get out >>>> is, if I have no messages in my currently selected folder, yet, I hit jaws >>>> key+num pad 8, even though no message is selected, as there are none there >>>> to start with, it still reports unread. Granted, it doesn't read any >>>> message, but, it still says unread, whereas with just the normal Windows >>>> standard scheme loaded, it doesn't say anything. Before you all ask, yes. >>>> Jaws key+tab is producing the exact same results in all above senarios. >>>> >>>> I suspect that this has something to do with a custom highlight color which >>>> jfw uses to detect the flags of read vs. unread, but I'd not know to save >>>> my >>>> >>>> life where to even begin to confirm this, nor to tweek it. >>>> >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. If we have any script writers on >>>> this list who could tell me step by step where to go, and what to change in >>>> my Outlook Express jss file or where ever to fix this, that would be great! >>>> I'm not scared to modify script files, as long as you tell me step by step >>>> exactly down to a T what to do. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================= >>>> >>>> The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free >>>> >>>> To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web >>>> pages located at >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at >>>> either of the following websites: >>>> >>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html >>>> >>>> Or: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >>>> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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