Yes, an interesting discussion.
The situation you outlined with your Jambox is fair enough and no, for
speech being played from Bluetooth the Jambox is acceptible.
The main problem with the Jambox is that its old thus it uses older
technology for its Bluetooth, nothing can be done about that.
So why is this such a problem? Well its not a problem if you're doing
what Gordon's doing, listening to speech but if you're making hands free
phone calls then its a pain in the A for want of a better way of putting
it and Mary summed it up earlier in this discussion when she described
how SIRI works with it.
This isn't SIRI'S fault rather the standard of Bluetooth being used is
not good for clarity or let's put it another way.
Suppose you spoke to SIRI with your hand over your mouth, that's the
sort of sound SIRI is hearing from the Microphone of the Jambox.
I use a Yamaha MPX100 for Bluetooth hands free speakerphone and the
clarity of that Bluetooth connection s far better, its using Bluetooth 3
and has far more band width to work with than the Jambox does using an
earlier version of Bluetooth.
I wouldn't expect everyone to want to own a Bowers And Wilkins T7 as
they're bigger than a Jambox or even a Yamaha MXP100 but the Bowers And
Wilkins T7 are without a doubt some of the best sounding portable
Bluetooth speakers one can purchase right now, the Lossless aptX format
for transmission between Phone and Speaker plays a huge part in the
great sound.
Now regarding eBay? well I don't know why Gordon brought this up but
since it has been brought up - I may as well deal with it.
eBay is pretty much like Amazon these days, there are many well known
shops and department stores on eBay selling their wares thus eBay is a
convenient place to order whatever you're looking for and just because
someone chooses to shop on eBay doesn't mean that they're buying any
more or any less inferior products than someone who decides to walk down
the High Street and buy ffrom the local discount store, local specialist
Hi-Fi shop, local confectionary outlet and so on.
I not only buy from eBay but I also buy from a whole heap of other
online facilities, specialist Hi-Fi and computer shops or any other
places that suit my needs, I recently bought a watch from a Jewelery
shop online for the Old Man's Birthday, I think the key point here is
the simple "Research your needs" point.
before I buy something online from eBay I always look at the sellers
feedback rating - the rating the seller receives from other buyers - and
that's a good guide to start with, if a seller has less than a 99%
rating then they're not worth bothering with and you can also read the
feedback the seller has received if you need further explanation.
Have I had problems with eBay? Yes, I've had two problems in six years
but in both cases I was able to get my money back through Paypal's buyer
protection programme by simply submitting a claim online, another story
for another time perhaps as it too is technical and makes itneresting
reading.
On 9/09/2016 8:35 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
Hello Everybodx
This discussion is very interesting actually. It is good to get
different points of view. Let's keep in mind that everybody is an
individual and just because they may or may not agree with us, that
does not mean that they are wrong.
I have the small JanBox, but I still think that the audio which it
produces is not at all bad. However, I certainly wouldnt suggest that
it is for everybody. I actually agree with Dane's comment about the
T7 system. I was playing with one a few days ago actually, as a
friend has one. We paired it with my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ and all
I could think of to say was "wow!!!!!" The audio is crisp, clear and
the frequency responsiveness is nothing short of amazing. We played
some of my very high quality FLAC audio files from a USB thumb drive
which I hooked up to the phone, and, in order to do a very fair
comparison, we then played exactly the same audio file via the same
phone and media player software, and also with the phone at ing same
volume levels. The difference between my Jambox and the T7 was very
very noticeableen
Now my reasons for not upgrading. Not through choice. But I had to
take stock, and decide what exactky I would stand to gain by doing so.
My little Jambox is used primarily as a book player, on my bedside
table. I don't like high volume audio in that situation, of course, so
that's one area where I stand to gain nothing. Given that I'm not even
using it for music, again, I stand to gain nothing by upgrad-ing. Also
I'm not the type of bloke who wheels and deals on Ebay or in the
second-hand market in general. Therefore, I'd have had yet another
device either sitting idle, or else it would have been thrown away.
I'm pretty roothless these days about keeping things I don't use. I've
just thrown away a box ful of old routers and range extenders, for
example.
So, given all this, I have so far resisted upgrading. I have a house
to run on my own now, and must keep within strict budgets. So really,
given that the speech is just as legible via the Jambox as it is via
the T7, I opted not to bow to temptation this time.
I have some astonishing news actually, which I'd like to share with
the group. So see my next message.
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My Compliments And Kindest Regards
Gordon Smith
'Accessibility And Information Technology Support Specialist
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On 8 Sep 2016 21:35, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:
Again your point is taken however the Soundlink Mini is amongst
the best Bose speakers around these days, how long since you heard
some Bose speakers and what types did you hear?
The model of Bose Soundlink Mini before this one wasn't all that
good and the latest one sounds so much better as well as having
the hands free speaker phone facility which the previous model
didn't have, its also far better built than the Jawbon Jambox
which isn't all steel as some people think it is, remove the wire
mesh and you'll find a plastic shell - or should I say the wire
mesh in the case of my Jawbone came off and I felt what was
underneath - but getting back to Bose.
The Bose Soundlink Bluetooth speaker itself - the bigger version
than the Soundlink Mini - is a little disappointing, overpowering
bass but still not too bad.
If course sound is a very personal thing and again, if you're
happy with what you have then nothing can damn you for that <smile>.
In my opinion if you want great Bluetooth sound then one of the
speakers to look out for is the Bowers And Wolkins T7 but then
again, perhaps its not worth even considering one of these
speakers if you have an iPhone as the iPhone cant make use of the
aptX technology the Bowers And Wilkins T7 uses.
That's not to say that the iPhone won't work with the T7, it works
well but you won't get the best sound out of the T7.
On 9/09/2016 6:28 AM, Stores, Mary A. wrote:
I don’t understand the fascination with Bose, and it seems like
it’s particularly guys that say everyone should have Bose. I’ve
heard two different Bose speakers now, and I am not all that
impressed with their sound.
I don’t understand why my description of my Jabra Solemate is
“telling.” Why is that?
I could also say it only has 3 buttons, plus the on/off switch,
plus it has a human voice that tells you when the battery’s
running low.
Mary
*From:*Dane Trethowan [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:07 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [Techno-Chat]; Bluetooth speakers
I'm very glad to hear it was on sale <smile>.
I thinkl your description though is very telling, "SIRI
understands me pretty well" and that's the point, there are a
whole heap of devices out there now which SISI understands far
better given they use better Bluetooth technology, the latest
Bose Soundlink Mini is a case in point but there are others.
On 9/09/2016 5:45 AM, Stores, Mary A. wrote:
I got a Jabra Solemate Bluetooth speaker about a year ago and
love it. It was on sale, and it had really good reviews. I
can listen to music and talk on the phone with it, and Siri
understands me pretty well.
Mary
*From:* Dane Trethowan [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:36 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [Techno-Chat]; So the new iPhone 7 has been
announced
I have to admit the boost in sound quality when I upgraded
from the 5S to the 6 was a huge plus and worth the upgrade
for that reason, Apple have - in my view with the 6 and 6S at
least - some of the best sounding internal speakers available
on a mobile phone.
Its a real pity that Apple still won't embrace aptX with
Bluetooth as that would make Bluetooth from an IOS phone
absolutely fantastic and up there with most other
manufacturers these days including Samsung, Asus, LG, Bowers
And Wilkins etc.
As far as the Jambox Jawbone goes? Well if you're happy with
it then fine but its a pity because you just don't know what
you're missing as there are other speakers out there the same
size that offer so much more, Jambox Jawbone stuff is nothing
more than gimmik.
Yes, I've used one and I had the greatest pleasure in
throwing the unit into the recycle bin a couple of years ago
I think it was.
