To your last point first.

I asked the developers of KNFB Reader if they had plans for an Mac OS version and the answer was "No" butthat was then and this is now <smile> so who knows, I guess they'll develop for the demand and they know the market for their product better than I do.

For $128 the KNFB Reader is a true value for Money peice of software that has the potential to give a whole heap of people a whole heap of independence.

It wasn't all that long ago that one had to pay nearly $2000 for a good OCR solution which was - no matter which way you look at it - totally outragous. The KNFB Reader have changed the rules here across platforms.

I felt a little sorry for users of iPhone not all that long ago, if one owned an Android device they could purchase the KNFB Reader for under $30, Google was subsidizing the cost of the App so Android users were able to pick up the KNFB Reader App for a quarter of what they would normally pay. Apple didn't come to the party - and that's completely up to them of course -.

The other irony of all this is the amount of online reading accessible material now readily available, when I first started using Open Book 22 years ago I was scanning documents almost all day it seemed: letters, books, maagazines, newspapers the works but now? Well all my utility bills are sent to me via eMail or I can view them on a web page.

There are times when an OCR package is truly worth its weight in gold, the other day I found a manual for one of the older pieces of Hi-Fi gear I owned, the manual was in PDF format but wasn't accessible so I used Docuscan+ to fix that problem.



On 3/06/2017 1:00 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
I guess that’s one advantage that those used to using cameras on other 
appliances have. I have trained people using applications such as OpenBook, 
with the Pearl Camera, Sara CE, EyePal Roll and EyePal Ace, not to mention the 
EseReader camera-based machine made by Rehan which is an Irish Republic based 
developer. All of these appliances are camera-based, rather than the 
traditional flatbed scanner. In general, I find that camera- based OCR is 
considerably more accurate, not to mention versatile, than the old-style 
flatbed. I have no idea why that should  be, possibly because the cameras are 
better quality, resolution higher, I’m not entirely sure.

In 2013 when I worked at a local organisation as a trainer, I was provided with 
a Sara CE to work with. I still have that machine, though I rarely use it for 
my own needs. I’m trying to get used to the Android version of KNFB on the 
BrailleNote Touch, but I think I’m going to install it on to my Samsung phones 
to see how well it fairs because the Touch’s camera doesn’t seem to lend itself 
too well to this app.

Now, again, this could be my error, and I’m very willing to concede that it 
probably is! But time will tell. I’m sure that there are KeySoft users out 
there who have had a lot more success than I have, had to date. At any rate, we 
shall see.

There is no doubt, however, that KNFB deserves great credit for their 
cross-platform support. It will be interesting to see whether they decide to 
release a MacOS version at any point.

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On 2 Jun 2017, at 04:49, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:

I've always liked the KNFB Reader App ever since it first appeared for the 
iPhone some years ago.

I've found many uses of the App though it did take me a while to get used to the idea of 
being able to use a camera to recognise literally pages and pages of text, menus at my 
local pub, pages handed to me whilst at an appointment and so it goes on, for those who 
are considering the KNFB Reader then may I suggest you also read the book "Getting 
The Picture" which is guide to photography on the iPhone from a blind person's 
perspective - yes, you're dealing with a camera when it coems to the KNFB Reader and so 
many other IOS Apps.

I had no hesitation therefore in purchasing the Android version of the KNFB 
Reader App when it released and thus didnt' hesitate to purchase the windows 10 
version of the same App.

I tested KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in two ways, I held a page around 6 inches 
away from my Webcam for the first test.

Given that the page was held toward the camera just on spec - no aid to help me 
line-up the page - the results were incredibly accurate and a litte more so 
when I scanned the page on my HP Scanner using the KNFB Reader, the KNFB reader 
by default just starts reading once the OCR process has been completed.

The Interface for the App is incredibly straight forward and you can get about 
all the elements of the App by using the Tab key, cursor keys in the menu 
system - which is very compact - and the spacebar to select or deselect an 
option.

Naturally the KNFB Reader Windows 10 App - as do the KNFB Reader Apps for IOS 
and Android - can integrate with your Dropbox account thus allowing you to Sync 
your KNFB data and scanned work across platforms and versions of the reader.

Price for the Windows version is $128 US which I consider to be excellent value 
for money.



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