Another subtle difference I forgot to mention is that the Plus has a line 
output, whereas the Echo does not. I’m off to look for a battery base actually, 
similar to the ones I have for the Echo and for the Dot.

I’m quite surprised that Amazon haven’t yet established a presence over there. 
I would have thought that there is quite a market.

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On 14 Nov 2017, at 21:16, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:

Interesting.

I've decided to hold back on any further Amazon Echo purchases until Amazon 
officially start their services in Australia, that won't be too much longer in 
coming.



On 11/15/2017 7:39 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> Just to clarify. I said that the audio hasn’t changed much. Not       true. 
> My error, when writing the message I posted a few moments ago, was that I 
> forgot that I’d tried them both in the same room conditions previously, and 
> noticed the difference. On my last test, I had them in totally separate 
> rooms, which moves the goal posts. As I said below, the speakers have indeed 
> been upgraded.
> 
> Regarding the Echo Show, I think that there are probably better ways of 
> accomplishing an upgrade, without losing accessibility. Several manufacturers 
> are now producing speaker products with Alexa built-in. So look around before 
> buying an Echo Show.
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> On 10 Nov 2017, at 10:00, Kulvinder Singh Bhogal <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi there Gordon
> 
> Thanks for the review.  
> 
> you have just helped me decide against getting the Show since it isn’t going 
> to be all that useful to me.
> 
> Thanks again and keep it coming sur.
> 
> Regards.
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>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 18:10, Gordon Smith <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> Yesterday I took delivery of my new Echo+, which has relegated the previous 
>> generation Echo to my bedside table, and my Echo Dot too my studio. Both 
>> will still be used a lot, so I’m not worried about that.
>> 
>> Downstairs, here in the lounge, the Echo+ now sits beside my multimedia 
>> equipment. So here are my initial impressions of the Echo+.
>> 
>> If you got your hands on an Echo+, and sat it beside an Echo, you wouldn’t 
>> be able to tell them apart. Not, at least, without examining the silicone 
>> sheet that they both sit upon. The power connectors are the same, but 
>> orientated at right-angles to one another. In the case of the Echo, the 
>> power connector protrudes from the back of the case, indented from the outer 
>> rim of the case. On the Echo+, the power connector is mounted on the rim of 
>> the case, and the indentation does not even exist.
>> 
>> In every other respect, the appearance of the two devices are absolutely 
>> identical.
>> 
>> Another difference is that the Echo previous generation had 7 discrete 
>> microphones. The new generation of Echo and Echo+ has 8. Tests have proven 
>> that this is quite an important addition. Even with music playing at a 
>> considerable volume, the Alexa interface can still detect your voice and 
>> comprehend your commands.
>> 
>> The processor in the new generation of Alexa-based devices has been 
>> upgraded. It now seems to be somewhat more responsive. This shows up most 
>> when you compare the new Echo and Echo+ to the second generation Echo Dot. 
>> But that doesn’t particularly worry me.
>> 
>> There are two reasons why I opted to go for the Echo+ rather than the Echo. 
>> Firstly, I’m not convinced that an upgrade, new for old, would have been 
>> particularly advantageous. The Echo+ has an integrated Smart Hub, meaning 
>> that it’s no longer necessary to “bridge” an external hub to support those 
>> smart devices that need a hub. Not all of them do, of course.
>> 
>> But the real reason why I upgraded was the quality of the audio. The speaker 
>> system has been upgraded, and the audio is now much more rich at the top 
>> end, and deep at the lower end of the spectrum.
>> 
>> Setup was a piece of cake. Because I already have an Amazon account, the 
>> device was pre-registered for me. All I had to do was to set up the WiFi, 
>> Bluetooth® and Voice Remote, the latter of which I have hijacked from the 
>> Echo Dot, where it never really worked too well anyway.
>> 
>> I’ve only had the device for just over 24 hours. But really, configuration 
>> was like home from home. It took me no more than 2 minutes in the Alexa app 
>> to get the thing set the way I wanted it set.
>> 
>> I’m not about to start raving about how good the device is. Yes, as I said, 
>> there are advantages. However, unless the quality of the audio in the 
>> previous generation Echo really grates you, (and I can’t imagine why it 
>> would), and unless you are particularly in need of a smart hub, it’s 
>> probably not worth upgrading. In actual fact, I’m not really sure why Amazon 
>> bothered with the Echo upgrade. As in the Echo, not the Echo+. Upgrading 
>> from the previous generation Echo which, I think, was the second generation 
>> to the current generation Echo is, to my mind, completely vacuous. I had 
>> originally planned to go for an Echo Sow. But I bottled out because of the 
>> possibility that some of the more used commands might have been visual. But 
>> that is apparently not the case. Amazon tell me that although their quick 
>> start guide discusses setup using the touch screen, it can in fact be 
>> performed using the Alexa app just like any other echo.
>> 
>> Thereafter, the Touch screen is an optional extra. The primary use of the 
>> screen is just to display video content. There is also a 5MP camera which 
>> can be used for video calls and chat. The Show has twin 4.9-Inch woofers, 
>> and twin side-facing tweeters which, if memory serves, are 2.6-inch. It also 
>> uses ambient audio, meaning it adjusts the audio to suit the characteristics 
>> of the room in which it is in use. This is one facet which it shares with 
>> the Google Home Max.
>> 
>> Whether I decide to go for a Show at a later date is, at this time, very 
>> much in the lap of the gods. But I would doubt it. I think that their are 
>> other options which, were I in the market for another speaker system, I 
>> would opt for in preference to the Echo Show.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts, for whatever they’re worth.
>> 
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