John C Klensin wrote:
(resending a slightly modified version from the correct address
-- sorry)

--On Monday, 12 June, 2006 18:19 +0100 Elwyn Davies
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I appreciate that the last call is strictly over, but one
extra point came to mind when considering
draft-iab-rfc-editor-00.

The requirements in draft-mankin split into two parts:
- Those that are specific to the IETF document 'stream' -
most;y the 'front end' of the process
- Those that apply mainly to the back end of the process and
are relevant to any documents that are published by the RFC
Editor

For convenience when specifying requirements for IAB and IRTF
documents etc it would be helpful if the two types of
requirements were split into separate sections for easier
cross referencing.

Elwyn,

This is, of course, one of the meta-problems with the document
that several of us have tried to point out in different ways.
The community has been repeatedly assured that it applies _only_
to the IETF document stream.  If that is true, then the material
you describe as "generic" is advisory at best.  At worst, it
needs separate evaluation via other processes.
Indeed. Any use of these requirements by another document stream than the IETF one is entirely a matter for the specifiers of that stream.

We probably have four different streams and the 'generic' stuff would not, AFAICS, be contentious for the IRTF and IAB streams - they currently take essentially the same post-approval path as the IETF stream. The main object of this exercise was to make it easier to write any additional requirements for the IRTF and IAB streams without having to duplicate things unnecessarily.

/Elwyn
If it is not true, then the document needs an entirely different
type of review and the IESG may not be an appropriate body to
manage that review.

Of course, those comments don't make your suggestion about
reorganizing the document and clearly identifying applicability
any less useful.

       john





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