Very interesting indeed! Thank you for the background information. In fact, someone needs to come up with a (trusted, paid) combined SIP + XMPP service (why? [1]) that offers VoIP and video services for a wide audience. Simply because as a business you better focus on your core business. If their operation is sustainable they could offer services for free for private people. - Sounds like the ever repeating story of let's-make-services-one-the-internet-for-free (for-some-time). *nirg*
What's the long-term strategy for this for a world-wide adoption? (beyond Google and the other giants) Peter [1] http://rtcquickstart.org/guide/multi/intro.html 2015-09-22 12:23 GMT+02:00 Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>: > On 22 September 2015 12:12:59 CEST, Peter Bittner <peter.bitt...@gmx.net> > wrote: >>Alright, then this is *really* a friggin' crazy net neutrality issue. >>Or they have it in their terms of use, then it's just that we have no >>right to complain because we don't pay for the service. >> >>In other words, this is a problem that can most probably not be fixed >>(by a user) in a technical way. (Awesome, Google, just awesome!) -- Or >>just not fixed when sticking to XMPP? I also see that Empathy is >>enabling and disabling the Voice, Video, Send File options on a user >>also based on the presence status (Available, Away), is that >>plausible? >> > > Even if you see them in your buddy list, Google sometimes silently drops the > chat messages you send them > > Your choices: > > a) hassle your provider, Google, to operate XMPP properly or not at all, > b) change provider, > c) run your own XMPP server - see the RTC Quickstart guide > > Telepathy does have some responsibility in this because the Jingle code has > been implemented to work the Google way, making Empathy users overconfident > in using Google as a provider rather than encouraging people to avoid > Google's non-standard approach from the outset. If Telepathy had avoided > such hacks then more people may be running on proper infrastructure and > Google wouldn't have the market dominance that allows them to snub > third-party clients like Empathy. > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > > -- > http://danielpocock.com _______________________________________________ telepathy mailing list telepathy@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy