Hi Jian,

Thanks very much for the information! That will help a lot with my
testing.

I'm still trying to figure out how to simulate pressing the tab key.

Apparently keyUp and keyDown aren't avail in 0.7.0 and I've moved back
to that version temporarily. Any ideas?

Jade

On Sep 8, 9:40 am, Jian Fang <[email protected]> wrote:
> No, that is not true. Tellurium works in two modes:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/aost/wiki/TelluriumAWrapOfSelenium
>
> 1) Selenium wrapper: Tellurium core generates runtime locators from UI
> modules, then
> call Selenium APIs. That is to say:
>
> Tellurium core  --> UI module --> runtime locator --> Selenium APIs with
> locator
>
> 2) Tellurium way: Tellurium Engine does UI module locating and call
> Tellurium APIs.
>
> Tellurium Core --> Pass UI module --> Tellurium Engine does UI module
> locating
> Tellurium Core --> UID based call --> Tellurium APIs.
>
> If you call useTelluriumEngine(false), you are running in mode 1),
> otherwise, it is in mode 2.
>
> Even in mode 1), you still benefit from the UI module definition, css
> selector, and some new APIs in term of
> Selenium extension.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jian
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Jade <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Jian,
>
> > Thank you for the information. I'm still unclear about a few items.
>
> > The reason that I started using tellurium is because certain tests
> > such as clicking on all checkboxes in a form weren't working with
> > selenium. In addition, I liked the separation of the module
> > definitions from the test code. Since the tellurium engine isn't
> > working at times with ajax, I've turned it off but then I'm unclear
> > about when exactly I need to turn it back on? From your message, I'm
> > afraid that I won't be able to use the module definitions when the
> > tellurium engine is off. Is that correct?
>
> > Jade
>
> > On Sep 8, 9:04 am, Jian Fang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Jade,
>
> > > I understand your confusion. 0.7.0 was designed in a way for Selenium
> > APIs
> > > to reuse the
> > > caching mechanism in the Tellurium new Engine, thus, many options are
> > > provided to fine
> > > tune the framework behavior. But now, seems this is a bit over-design and
> > > could cause a lot of
> > > confusions. As a result, in 0.8.0, Selenium APIs will not be coupled with
> > > Tellurium Engine
> > > that is to say,
>
> > > Selenium APIs:   CSS/XPath selector, no caching mechanism
> > > Tellurium APIs:  UI module locating, caching mechanism
>
> > > With that, useTelluriumEngine(boolean isUse) should be enough to switch
> > > between Tellurium APIs
> > > and Selenium APIs.
>
> > > useTelluriumEngine(false) and useTelluriumApi(true) seem to use Tellurium
> > > APIs, but turn off
> > > the caching mechanism, which worked one week ago. With the latest update
> > of
> > > using UIDs, not
> > > locators for Tellurium APIs, TelluriumAPIs must work with caching. That
> > is
> > > why you cannot do
> > > that now.
>
> > > We do appreciate you try out Tellurium new APIs and seems they worked for
> > > most time. But
> > > Tellurium APIs are still experimental and please switch back to Selenium
> > > APIs if you run into
> > > any problems. Please keep trying the Tellurium new APIs and reporting
> > > problems, which is
> > > the only way Tellurium Engine could be improved.
>
> > > As a rule of thumb, the commands in the format of
>
> > > useXXXX(boolean isUse)
>
> > > for example useTelluriumEngine(boolean isUse), are defined for Groovy and
> > > Java base test cases.
>
> > > The counterparts of the same command is
>
> > > enableXXXX()
> > > disableXXXX()
>
> > > in DslContext.
>
> > > Hope this helps.
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Jian
>
> > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jade <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jian,
>
> > > > Is there any documentation that specifies what the following options
> > > > provide?
>
> > > > useTelluriumEngine(true) (not available in TelluriumDataDrivenModule)
> > > > vs enableTelluriumEngine() (available in TelluriumDataDrivenModule)
>
> > > > vs. useTelluriumApi(true)
>
> > > > My tests seem to work best when useTelluriumEngine(false) and
> > > > useTelluriumApi(true) is set in the TelluriumDataDrivenTest subclass
> > > > but I'm wondering what specific functionality that is turning off and
> > > > on for my tests?
>
> > > > Jade
>
> > > > On Sep 8, 8:00 am, Jade <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > In my groovy code of my data driven test (subclass of
> > > > > TelluriumDataDrivenModule), I have the call:
>
> > > > > validate "DspaceLoginForm"
>
> > > > >                                 useTelluriumEngine(true)
> > > > >                                 type "DspaceLoginForm.LoginEmail",
> > email
> > > > >                                 pause VireoTestConfig.getPauseTime()
>
> > > > > which results in this exception:
>
> > > > > groovy.lang.MissingMethodException: No signature of method:
>
> > org.tdl.vireo.webtest.datadriventests.module.DspaceLogonModule.useTelluriumEngine()
> > > > > is applicable for argument types: (java.lang.Boolean) values: [true]
> > > > > Possible solutions: useTelluriumApi(boolean)
>
> > > > > I'm using the latest jars as of Sept 7, 2010
>
> > > > > Jade
>
> > > > > On Sep 7, 7:12 pm, Jian Fang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > useTelluriumEngine(isUse) actually calls couple APIs under the
> > hood,
>
> >http://code.google.com/p/aost/wiki/UserGuide070TelluriumBasics#useTel.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > > In 0.8.0, we may want to remove other options so that user only
> > uses
> > > > > > useTelluriumEngine(isUse) to change the framework behavior. If you
> > can
> > > > call
> > > > > > useTelluriumApi(), you should be able to call
> > useTelluriumEngine(isUse)
> > > > as
> > > > > > well, they are
> > > > > > all defined in the test case.
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > Jian
>
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Jade <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Since the tests are data driven, all of the code that manipulates
> > the
> > > > > > > html elements is in groovy. The only option is to set
> > > > > > > useTelluriumApi() to false before calling these lines and then to
> > > > true
> > > > > > > afterwards but that's not the same as setting TelluriumEngine to
> > > > > > > false. I can set the TelluriumEngine to false in the test code
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > > > public void testDataDriven() {
>
> > > > > > >                // If you are not using Tellurium Engine, you
> > don't
> > > > need to
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > cache.
> > > > > > >                useTelluriumEngine(false);
>
> > > > > > > but then I can't turn it off only before calling the few lines of
> > > > code
> > > > > > > in my earlier post and then turn the tellurium engine back on
> > again.
>
> > > > > > > What different behaviors will we see with
> > useTelluriumEngine(false);
> > > > > > > versus useTelluriumApi(false); ?
>
> > > > > > > Jade
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 7, 3:36 pm, Jian Fang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well, it depends on what key events the Javascript handler
> > responds
> > > > to.
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you use Trump to record the UI,
> > > > > > > > what is the respond attribute for the generated UI object?
>
> > > > > > > > Also, Tellurium new Engine may have event handling problem,
> > simply
> > > > switch
> > > > > > > > back to Selenium to see if
> > > > > > > > your key event works by calling
>
> > > > > > > > useTelluriumEngine(false);
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > > > Jian
>
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jade <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi again,
>
> > > > > > > > > Our forms use a lot of ajax. In order to change a value of a
> > text
> > > > box,
> > > > > > > > > the user has to first click on the text box. That changes the
> > > > text box
> > > > > > > > > into an input box. Then the user changes the value and
> > presses
> > > > the tab
> > > > > > > > > key to trigger ajax to save the value.
>
> > > > > > > > > I've tried simulating pressing the tab key with this code:
>
> > > > > > > > > // press the tab key which triggers saving the value
> > > > > > > > >                        context.keyDown(inputUid, "\\9")
> > > > > > > > >                        context.keyUp(inputUid, "\\9")
>
> > > > > > > > > but it's not moving the cursor to the next field thus the
> > data
> > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > aren't saved.
>
> > > > > > > > > What's the correct way to simulate pressing the tab key?
>
> > > > > > > > > Here are my test values for the data driven tests:
>
> > > > > > > > >        useTelluriumEngine(true);
> > > > > > > > >                useTelluriumApi(true);
> > > > > > > > >                useCache true
> > > > > > > > >                useCssSelector(true);
> > > > > > > > >                useTrace(true);
>
> > > > > > > > > Jade
>
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