Thanks Nick for the update. 
I know I want all my tools in the toolbox to work together hence the reason we 
went with LTE and not cambium for our future deployments. 
As long as Telrad is working with other vendors to make thing work together 
then I am happy with that.   
My biggest fear is that I deploy another vendors eNB and all works great until 
new firmware is released on either side. 
Thanks Nick!
Matthew Carpenter
Amarillo Wireless
806-316-5071




On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 5:55 PM -0500, "Nick Dewar" <[email protected]> 
wrote:




















Hi Folks,


 


It has come to my attention that a competitor has made allegations about Telrad 
being nonstandard. I would like to state that these allegations are false, 
ill-informed and
 irresponsible 


 


The Telrad EPC is 100% standards compliant as is our eNodeB and UEs.  Anytime 
you work in a multi-vendor environment there is an IOT process which needs to 
be managed on a
 per release level.  In our new EPC build we have added several features per 
standard.  Anyone operating a third party eNodeB with a partial standard 
implementation could potentially encounter issues hence the need for an IOT 
process.


 


We are indeed working in scaled networks with tier 1 vendor eNodeB , EPC and UE 
at this time so the standards allegation frankly holds no water


 


Any questions please feel free to reach out



 


Thanks


Nick



 





From: Nick Dewar


Sent: July 26, 2016 5:01 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20




 




 




Neil - compact 3000 does not yet support 4x4 TM4. This is stated in release 
notes




 




Matt C - I'm reaching out to you offline to review 4x4 results between 3874 and 
4013




 




Telrad enodeb supports third party UE so not sure where that assumption comes 
from. We have commercial networks deployed with various vendor UE. 




 




Thx




 




 





Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.





 




 




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   1. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)

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   4. Re: Other CPEs (Matthew Carpenter)

   5. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)





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Message: 1

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:54:42 -0500

From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4

To: Telrad List <[email protected]>

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Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change

one tonight and see if that fixes it.



Matt Carpenter







On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie <[email protected]> wrote:



> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using Compact

> 3000's though.

>

> 2X4 seems better

>

> Neil

>

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer <[email protected]> wrote:

>

>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three

>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to 2x4 now

>> with ports 3&4 receive only.

>>

>>

>>

>> Terry

>>

>> NETAGO

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On

>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM

>> *To:* [email protected]

>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]>

>> wrote:

>>

>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?

>>

>>

>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?

>>

>>

>>

>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> Jeremy Austin

>>

>>

>>

>> (907) 895-2311

>>

>> (907) 803-5422

>>

>> [email protected]

>>

>>

>>

>> Heritage NetWorks

>>

>> Whitestone Power & Communications

>>

>> Vertical Broadband, LLC

>>

>>

>>

>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon

>>

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Message: 2

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:19:25 -0400

From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]>

Subject: [Telrad] Other CPEs

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Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?





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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:22:00 -0400

From: Josh Luthman <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs

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Uh I thought they were LTE?



Josh Luthman

Office: 937-552-2340

Direct: 937-552-2343

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Troy, OH 45373



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> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?

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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:23:47 -0500

From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs

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?From my testing I am able to get 3rd party UE's to connect and work fine.

3rd party eNB's will no longer connect to the EPC as of 6.6 release.



Matt Carpenter



?



On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>

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> Uh I thought they were LTE?

>

> Josh Luthman

> Office: 937-552-2340

> Direct: 937-552-2343

> 1100 Wayne St

> Suite 1337

> Troy, OH 45373

>

> On Jul 26, 2016 5:19 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>

> wrote:

>

>> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?

>> _______________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:29:05 -0500

From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4

To: Telrad List <[email protected]>

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Updates:

I have an eNB with version 0606.03874 in 4x4TM4 mode and have not seen the

speed issues.

Another eNB with version 0606.04013 in 4x4TM4 mode is having the speed

issues.











On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Matthew Carpenter <

[email protected]> wrote:



> Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change

> one tonight and see if that fixes it.

>

> Matt Carpenter

>

>

>

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie <[email protected]>

> wrote:

>

>> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using

>> Compact 3000's though.

>>

>> 2X4 seems better

>>

>> Neil

>>

>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer <[email protected]>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three

>>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to 2x4 now

>>> with ports 3&4 receive only.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Terry

>>>

>>> NETAGO

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On

>>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin

>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM

>>> *To:* [email protected]

>>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?

>>>

>>>

>>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> Jeremy Austin

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> (907) 895-2311

>>>

>>> (907) 803-5422

>>>

>>> [email protected]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Heritage NetWorks

>>>

>>> Whitestone Power & Communications

>>>

>>> Vertical Broadband, LLC

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon

>>>

>>> _______________________________________________

>>> Telrad mailing list

>>> [email protected]

>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Neil Smellie

>> Core Broadband Inc.

>> Interactive North

>> 27 Dominion Street

>> Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6

>> 705-224-2673 ext 102

>>

>> _______________________________________________

>> Telrad mailing list

>> [email protected]

>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad

>>

>>

>

>

> --

> *Matthew Carpenter*

> *806-316-5071 <806-316-5071> office*

> *806-236-9558 <806-236-9558> cell*

>

>

>





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