Hi,

I've not used tess4j but the JavaDocs show that it should be possible to
set TessAPI.TessPageSegMode:

http://tess4j.sourceforge.net/docs/docs-1.0/net/sourceforge/tess4j/TessAPI.html

http://tess4j.sourceforge.net/docs/docs-1.2/net/sourceforge/tess4j/TessAPI1.TessPageSegMode.html

The 3000 resampled image was:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/ArrisVIP2500_3000.png

Cheers

On 8 January 2015 at 15:35, newbie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Allistair,
>             Thanks for taking the time to respond . Do you know how to use
> psm 6 in tess4j(its probably an argument to the instantiator, need to look
> up the src code) ? I have not seen any examples of it being used by
> googling.. I tried to resample the cropped image to 3000 px(horizontall
>  using paint) like you suggested and ran it thro tess4j and it still did
> not recognize my model number. Gave me an output of "VIPZSOO". So I guess
> piping it thro psm 6 is the key. Also can u send me the image that was
> produced after you resampled it to 3000px, so that I know my resampling is
> right.
>
> I also like your idea of providing the white box in the camera view to use
> it as my input to cropping . Sure can do that.
> I think I am glad discussed the feature matching - that seems more like
> object recognition than text recognition. So probably is far fetched. I had
> used camFlow(an app) to see if it would recognize my equipment images and
> it always came back with "Black media player". So they probably are using
> feature matching of openCV.
>
> Thanks again and appreciate your taking time to respond.
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:12:05 PM UTC-5, Allistair C wrote:
>>
>> It sort of depends on your hardware and how similar or different they
>> are. Reliable feature matching works on distinct features (so there need to
>> be enough points of interest (edges usually) that cover text, buttons,
>> other bits and pieces). If, for example, all your hardware was the same as
>> the example you originally posted and only the model number was changing
>> then this would be an issue most likely as the feature matching may match
>> several targets.
>>
>> Also you mention the tech takes a picture on mobile. Does that need to be
>> looked up immediately? The issue is that feature matching is CPU heavy and
>> can take time on mobile and is a function of the photo resolution. Luckily,
>> feature matching appears to work better on lower resolution images and most
>> of the time works in black and white. Then there is the potential number of
>> hardware items you are trying to match. The most advanced mobile augmented
>> reality products (Metaio, Vuforia) that use feature matching only allow up
>> to 100 targets to be "tracked" or "looked for" at a time - every piece of
>> hardware you are looking for needs to be compared to the live input camera
>> view (or photo) and this is the part that hits the CPU hard. If however
>> there was an option to offload the image(s) to a backend cloud server for
>> feature match or if the tech did not need an instant or any kind of result
>> in the field, then you are in a better situation as you can stand up
>> serious computing power.
>>
>> It's not easy to recommend one or the other without all the facts - as
>> you begin to mention new things like mobile and techs in the field, this
>> changes things :) For instance I also used mobile - an Android tablet, with
>> Open CV and Tesseract OCR - the combination worked in the field - the tech
>> can position the camera face-on to the model number and take a close photo.
>> You could even provide a mini App for your techs that has a basic cropping
>> tool. The technique I used was to show the camera view in my app with a
>> little white transparent box over the camera view that allowed the user to
>> position the text to fit that white box. Then, when the photo was taken I
>> simply cropped that white box coordinate rectangle and I had a perfect
>> match. This was easy vs. feature matching :)
>>
>> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:02:09 UTC, newbie wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for the barrage here.
>>> The interesting thing is you mentioned feature matching with openCV(I
>>> dont know anything at all about it). But the one thing is I can have a
>>> repository of these images with me and I need to match it to one of the
>>> user generated image.
>>>
>>> A little background might help. I can(or come up with) have a repository
>>> of all the equipment images with me. A tech might head to the field, take a
>>> picture on his mobile device and  I need to match it(tech's picture)
>>> against my repository and come up with the model number.
>>>
>>> Is this easier with ocr or feature matching with openCV ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:35:47 PM UTC-5, newbie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Allistair , my lucky day as you have responded to both my
>>>> queries. Let me try to address your questions below and then go ahead with
>>>> a few of my own :-)
>>>>
>>>> *I also meant to ask whether your use case allows for cropping. If you
>>>> know you will have a certain format of image, cropping an area and
>>>> resampling should be easy.*
>>>> Basically the image will be an user generated image, more like the
>>>> first png file, but we could ask the user to zoom in to the model number,
>>>> if that would help us indentify the model number.we could do anything with
>>>> the image(cropping ,resampling etc). But the problem is the model number
>>>> probably will not be located at the same place for all equipments.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Preprocessing - as it should be programatically done would I be
>>>> using opencv in conjunction with tesseract? I did not see much in tesseract
>>>> for image processing(I could be totally off).
>>>> 3.*.I also use psm 6 for these types of image with various text
>>>> locations.*
>>>>    what is this ?
>>>>
>>>> Another thing I probably can come up with is all the model #s or images
>>>> of all potential equipments, so I have repository to match against. Would
>>>> that help in any way ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for taking the time to respond. Appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 4:44:47 PM UTC-5, Allistair C wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I also meant to ask whether your use case allows for cropping. If you
>>>>> know you will have a certain format of image, cropping an area and
>>>>> resampling should be easy. You could also do some preprocessing that looks
>>>>> for certain icons in your image to get some context as to where the model
>>>>> number is likely to be (see feature matching on Open CV). However, I would
>>>>> need to know more about your use case.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, resampling your full image to 3000px wide yielded a result
>>>>> with a full model number but the more you can crop the area the better the
>>>>> result:
>>>>>
>>>>> AT&T U verse ‘ §
>>>>> LINK HD nzc ,
>>>>> rowzn Q I ‘ .» . ‘ nsuu 4 0|: > I
>>>>> / sj J \
>>>>> VIP2500 °%' 7 A R R I s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 January 2015 at 21:39, Allistair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A common technique is to pre-process your input image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Resizing produced good results.I also use psm 6 for these types of
>>>>>> image with various text locations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case I first used your cropped image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tesseract ArrisVIP2500_cropped.png out -l eng -psm 6 config
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and got:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AT&T U verse
>>>>>> rowsn
>>>>>> O F3.
>>>>>> vrrzsoo ’e'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I resampled your image to 2000px wide:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tesseract ArrisVIP2500_cropped_2000.png out2000 -l eng -psm 6 config
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and got:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AT&T U verse
>>>>>> POWER © " ‘|
>>>>>> / ‘j""'j"’..
>>>>>> VIP2500 '%’
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 January 2015 at 19:26, newbie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using tess4j, a java wrapper around tesseract and Here are the
>>>>>>> images and results. The intent is to extract VIP2500(model number) from 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> image. An help is appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached are the original png  file ( ArrisVIP2500.png),binarized
>>>>>>> file(ArrisVIP2500_bin.TIF) and then a zoomed and cropped
>>>>>>> file(ArrisVIP2500_cropped.png).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ArrisVIP2500.png*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  é ATE-T U-verse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rowan 0
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ArrisVIP2500_bin.TIF*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AT&T U-verse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rowan <3 3
>>>>>>> / --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vxvzsoo ‘Q’
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ArrisVIP2500_cropped.png*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ATE-T U-verse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rowsn Q
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VIPZSOO ‘e’                      This looks the closest to VIP2500 ,
>>>>>>> I need to get tess4j to reconginze digits, that said, this might not be 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> realistic scenario, as someone/something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                            Needs to zoom and crop
>>>>>>> the image before hand(preprocessing).
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