Stas Bekman wrote:
Geoffrey Young wrote:
that other thread was becoming too much to follow :)
You just ruined the record we were heading to. It was 62 messages and growing. ;)
Or would you rather say, that you are anxious to publish the article? ;)
well, it's less about my level of anxiety than it is about managing expectations and keeping everyone informed :)
You can tell Simon to blame me for that ;) or David ;)
The latest development on this front is different. The idea is to leave Apache-Test as is, and rename Apache::test to Apache::testold or similar. Adjust mod_perl-1.28 to use Apache::testold and migrate all 3rd party modules to use Apache::testold by requiring mod_perl-1.28, or bundle the old Apache/test in their distros, untill they get a chance to port to Apache::Test.
okey dokey. is your (meaning everybody) gut feeling that this will really work? or do you think it will end up being rehashed again in the near future? personally, I never had an issue moving Apache::Test to Apache::TestPlan ;)
Well, we haven't really asked anybody who relies on Apache::test whether they are happy with this resolution. But I think since they can always bundle Apache::test and re-release their packages with just that, they won't get too grumpy.
I'm not sure if we should distribute Apache::testold in Apache-Test. I'd rather see this module as becoming deprecated.
deprecation takes a lot of time - I would have thought it would have gone away once the perl-framework was established 2 years ago :)
Yes, yes, It'll always be in mp1. Though we should write in big letters that if you plan to write a new test suite, use Apache::Test instead.
it might make sense to deliver testold.pm as well, which would probably make migration easier.
Not really, since authors will have to change and re-release their code in any case, because of the name change.
Geoff, it'd be nice for your article to sum up this issue, once everybody is happy with it. Looks to me like a perfect place and time.
well, the article (and series) pretty much focuses on mp2 only - it might make sense to mention it there, but the issues (now) are really with older stuff (migration paths) than for new development. furthermore, I've never used Apache::test and wasn't one of the ones with problems, so I'm really not in a position to comment with any authority on the issues. but I'll put in something :)
It doesn't matter if you have used it or not (I haven't). All I want you to say is:
A note for Apache::test users, the old package coming with mod_perl-1.0: Because of the filesystem collisions with Apache::Test on case-insensitive systems (notice the case difference) we decided to rename s|Apache::test|Apache::testold| in mod_perl-1.0. So please re-release your packages which bundle Apache/test.pm under t/ or /inc (so it won't get installed) or require mod_perl 1.28 which will carry Apache/testold.pm.
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