Logs:
https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/quality/quality.2025-11-10-16.00.html
https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/quality/quality.2025-11-10-16.00.log.html
Here is an AI-generated summary of a Fedora Quality meeting [1] from
2025-11-10.
Please be aware that the summary is intended for a quick convenient
recapitulation of the meeting, but might contain factual errors. Read the
full meeting log for all the details.
Previous meeting follow-up
Adam Williamson confirmed there were no action items from the previous
meeting.
Fedora 44 status
The team discussed the current state of Fedora 44 (Rawhide).
- Adam noted he hadn't seen any major "breakage" headlines during his
vacation.
- Kamil Páral agreed, stating he hadn't seen any "fires".
- Lukáš Růžička, who had been monitoring updates, reported they were
"mostly good".
- A new Unified KDE OOBE (Out-of-Box-Experience) change [2] was noted,
sparking some joking about a "K-I-S" (KDE-Installation-Setup).
- The consensus was that F44 seems to be in a reasonable state.
Test Day / community event status
Kamil delegated this topic to Petr Sklenar, who is a new addition to the
team.
- Petr is organizing the upcoming FreeIPA-WebUI Test Day, scheduled for
2025-12-02. He is currently in touch with developers to add their test
cases to the wiki page [3].
- A request for a PyTorch Test Day has also been received.
- Petr reported he lacked permissions to create the event on the Fedora
Calendar. Kamil identified this was tied to FAS group membership and added
Petr to the `qa-admin` group to resolve the issue.
Forgejo migration
The team discussed the ongoing migration from Pagure to Forgejo.
- The Quality organization is now live on Forgejo [4].
- Kamil noted that a blocking issue for migration has been closed.
- The plan is to first experiment on the staging instance (`
forge.stg.fedoraproject.org`) before migrating production projects.
- Lukáš Růžička volunteered to test the migration by moving
`fedora-easy-karma` (FEK) to the staging instance. The migration is handled
by a UI button and is expected to preserve issue numbers.
- Several users (Kamil, Petr) experienced login issues with the staging
instance. Adam suggested this might be due to the staging FAS server using
an older password database. `humaton` (jednorozec) joined the channel to
help debug the authentication failures.
- During the discussion, Lukáš successfully completed the test migration
of FEK to staging and reported that, "On first sight, it looks good".
policy: updates-testing policy exceptions
Kamil brought up a QA ticket [5] regarding the `updates-testing` policy.
- The Issue: Podman developers would like to keep their Release Candidate
(RC) builds permanently in the `updates-testing` repository to gather more
testing, and only push the final version to `stable`. This conflicts with
the current policy, which states that updates in `updates-testing` must be
intended for stable release.
- Discussion:
- Kamil clarified that QA cannot grant an exception but can provide
an opinion to FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee).
- Adam expressed that he doesn't "love it" because it "muddies the
purpose" of the repository.
- Kashyap Chamarthy agreed, worrying podman would become a "unique
snow flake".
- Kamil stated he does not want a list of exceptions; if this is a
good idea, FESCo should be asked to clarify the policy for everyone.
- Lukáš raised concerns that if all packages were allowed to do this,
it would increase the QA workload checking failed tests. He also suggested
alternative testing methods could be used, though Kamil noted the
developers feel `updates-testing` provides the best impact.
- Outcome: No firm decision was made, but the general sentiment was
hesitant.
actionable: Action items
- Kamil Páral will update the policy ticket [5] with a summary of the
team's discussion.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_KDE_OOBE
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2025-12-02_FreeIPA-WebUI_Test_Day
[4] https://forge.fedoraproject.org/quality
[5] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/841
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