On 6/7/26 10:37 PM, George R Goffe via test wrote:
Sam,

Thanks for responding to my request. It IS APPRECIATED.

Rawhide? Yes. I typically use the "latest" Rawhide in an effort to further the 
cause.

It has been my experience with GRUB2 that there's always a GRUB menu displayed including 
Fedora systems up to "recent (45)" systems. This non display of the menu seems 
to have started in FC 45.

Do you have any ideas about this?

Regards,

George...

Here's my /etc/default/grub contents:


   GRUB_TIMEOUT=11

   GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"

   GRUB_DEFAULT=1

   GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="true"

   GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
   GRUB_FONT=/boot/efi/EFI/fedora/fonts/ter-d28b.psf.gz

   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=2552190d-d8d6-4f65-bf48-660e4e1936d1 
net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 audit=0 selinux=0 kvm.enable_virt_at_load=0 vga=791           
vconsole.font=ter-d28b i8042.nopnp"

   GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"

   GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG="true"







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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 17:29:03 -0700
From: Samuel Sieb<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: MISSING grub2 menu after a kernel update
To:[email protected]
Message-ID:<[email protected]>
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This is the test list.  Are you using rawhide?

On 6/2/26 4:54 PM, George R Goffe via test wrote:
This first boot after an  update does NOT display a grub2 menu. The system 
"thinks" for a while (about 15  seconds; approximately GRUB_TIMEOUT=15. I have 
changed the grub2 files that influence the fonts chosen some time ago which mostly has 
been working for almost a year. NONE of these changes are apparent during this first boot 
and the fonts are ALL REALLY SMALL. I don't know which grub2 entry is being booted 
because the fonts are too small to readl. Eventually, the system tries to start(?) 
something which NEVER succeeds.
The default is to not display a menu.  You should be able to activate
the menu by pressing a key.  I like to use something like shift because
it doesn't affect the menu.  Then you'll be able to see which entry it's
trying to boot.

My response is to hold down the power button til the system powers off.

Now, I hit the power button and the boot proceeds as usual... with most of the 
font selection stuff in grub2 process.

The system finally comes up and all appears to be ok.
If the boot fails, grub will show the menu on the next boot.  Which
entry is selected by default?  Is that the one you choose?

The current menu policy is a real pain!!! The keys purported to get the menu to 
display the menu do not work.
On occasion the command to the grub environment will be effective
---
grub2-editenv - unset menu_auto_hide

documentation is a swamp

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