Hello Mojca,

I agree to whatever you think is the best for the survival of the Dutch hyphenation patterns. If that is the MIT license go ahead.

I have [email protected] added to the recipients.

Good luck and the very best to all of you,

Piet

Op 14-10-2021 om 16:08 schreef Mojca Miklavec:
Dear Hans, Piet & others,

First of all: Hans, thank you very much for forwarding us the email
conversation.

There have been several individual efforts to re-license the patterns
on a language-by-language basis (by Mozilla, Google, some Linux
distributions, ...).
The LPPL licence (being also used by the Dutch patterns) causes some
troubles to certain projects and their lawyers. Arthur had a couple of
talks about that at BachoTeX.

Based on the discussions we had many years ago, MIT licence in fact
seems the one that's most suitable to the widest variety of projects
potentially interested in using the patterns.

Me and Arthur are maintaining the repository with the latest versions
of "all" patterns, but we need an explicit permission from the author
(Piet) if we want to change the licence of the patterns.

So the short question is: do you Piet agree to re-licencing the
patterns to the MIT licence?
     https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT

We can take care of the changes themselves if needed, but we would
need your permission to do so.
(An email sent to [email protected] would serve as a publicly
archived confirmation in case someone asks about it in the future.)

Thank you,
     Mojca

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 15:49, Hans Hagen wrote:
Hi Piet,

I forwarded the mail to the official hyphenation maintainers (Piet:
years (tex live) pattern management was made into a project where
patterns are maintained by an able team in utf format for various
formats and thereby Arthur and Mojca handle all now).

Personally I find licenses a boring, uninteresting and waste-of-time
subject (if only because I think that the large (commercial)
organizations do whatever they like anyway and/or always find ways
around it) so I happily leave it to the team to decide what license(s)
to apply. As long as it doesn't backfire.

Hans

Hello Annemarie,

It will be no problem to use the Dutch TeX hyphenation patterns I
expect. But I am retired since 2008 and am not active in the TeX world
anymore. I will forward your request to NTG (Nederlandstalig TeX
Genootschap). They can tell you which version is the most actual and
help you further.

I am curious in what way you will use the hyphenation patterns in the
Android system. I remember that I wrote a C-program hyphenate.c that can
use the TeX patterns to hyphenate a list of words for testing purposes.
I expect that this program is still available on the TeX archives
otherwise I can try to locate it in my personal archives.

Best wishes and succes with the patterns,

Piet

Op 14-10-2021 om 02:26 schreef Annemarie Apple:
Hi Piet,

I am reaching out about the Tex hyphenation patterns for Dutch,
hyph-nl,
<https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/patterns/tex/hyph-nl.tex>
which we would like to be able to use in the Android Open Source
Project <https://source.android.com/>.


Are you the original author of these patterns? If so, would you be
willing to license your hyphenation patterns under the MIT license
<https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT>so that we can use them in Android?

If so, would you mind either opening a PR to update the file in GitHub
or replying to this email with [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> on cc confirming the following so that the
file can be updated in GitHub as well?

   * You are the author of the source code
   * That the source code is made available to the public under the
     terms of the MIT software license
     <https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT>,

Looking forward to hearing from you!


Best,
Annemarie Apple



Annemarie Apple

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