Aloha Christian,

The GIF/PNG-story continues... Regarding your experiments:

    > I've done some experiments with converting our icons (found at
    > previews, sound files etc) from gif format to png by means of the
    > ImageMagick 'convert' tool. To see the results of that you may
    > have a look at my web archive of recorder music scores found in a
    > section of "The Recorder Player's Page"
    > http://www.saers.com/recorder/mondrup/. 

    > For this page I have been reusing the icons of the Icking archive
    > converted (allmost all of them) to png format. You'll notice (at
    > least with Netscape browsing) that the background colour of the
    > sound file icon found near the top of the page is not transparent
    > to the background color of the web page as is the case with the
    > original gif image used in our archive.

I viewed your page at www.saers.com with Internet Exploder 5.0 and
noticed that the transparency of sound.png is OK. So, I fear that it is
Netscape that does not (yet?) support transparency in PNG-files.
Consulting the PNG website http://www.libmng.com/pub/png/pngapbr.html
revealed the following w.r.t. Netscape vs PNG:

    <snip>
    Netscape Navigator [Netscape Communications] (Unix/X, Windows 9x/NT,
    Mac OS, OS/2) - version 4.04 and later; progressive display
    (replicating method); full alpha and gamma support as of version
    6.0PR2 (see Mozilla above) but no transparency or gamma support
    whatsoever in version 4.x;
    </snip>

My guess is, that you use Netscape 4.x or older...

    > What I would like from you is some technical advice on gif->png
    > conversion of our icons.  Besides I would also appreciate some
    > references to collections of png icons.  The results of my own web
    > search for such collections were poor:-(

Personally, I use "giftoppm --alpha" and "pnmtopng -alpha" in a 2-step
process. (Cannot do it in a pipe, because the latter tries to read the
alpha channel file before the former has fully written it.). I suppose
that ImageMagick's convert does the same.

For a nice collection of (useful?) PNG images, have a look at
http://www.pngart.com/IMAGES.HTM.

HTH,
Arjen

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