I remember following Ken in Russell's and we were in that tight spot and I 
could hear Ken's heart beating. I also heard the dog barking.  Maybe it was the 
dog's heart beating...

-Ed Snyder-
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> On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Ken Harrington <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> In 1966 or 1967 four of us set off for a two day dig in Russell's Crawl.  
> Members of the party as I remember were Gary Davis, Ed Glenn, Ed Snyder and 
> myself.  We entered the cave on Friday evening and proceeded to the dig face 
> at the end of Russell's Crawl.  At that time the Hoeman's Passage had not 
> been started and we were following the air straight ahead in Russell's Crawl. 
>  We took turns digging and had been digging for about 24 hours so it was late 
> Saturday night or early Sunday morning when Ed Glenn returned from his stint 
> at the dig face.  He proceeded to tell us about the lovely young girl that he 
> had met and how enchanting she was.  At that point in time the rest of us 
> determined that he was hallucinating and it was time to get out of there.  We 
> exited the cave with no further problems except that Ed was firmly convinced 
> that he had actually met the young lady and that he was not hallucinating.  
> On another dig trip with Ed Snyder, Gary Davis, John King and myself we were 
> digging in Russell's Crawl when we all heard a dog barking.  It was strange 
> because at first none of us wanted to admit that he had heard a dog barking.  
> The source of the dog barking was never determined.  
> I believe that the folding shovel with Gary Davis's name on it may have been 
> left there on one of these digging adventures.  
>  
> Ken   
> 
> 
> Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
> rain. 
>  
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:51:38 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways
> 
> I remember my first trip through the infamous Russell's Crawl.  It was in 
> 1971 or there about.  The sand siphon is only 6 inches high and it descends 
> at a 15% angle.  One has to dig the sand out, push the sand behind you and 
> literally bury yourself as you worm your way in.  I was new to caving and 
> didn't like tight crawls.  By the time that I was through, I was in a near 
> panic.  I wanted out of there.  About 10 or 15 from the siphon, I tried to 
> turn around.  Too tight.  When it opened up after another few feet, I was 
> like Curly of the Three Stooges lying on the floor and trying to walk myself 
> in a circle.  "Whew, whew, whew!"  I could have gone another 10 feet, where 
> the passage opened up, but noooooooo.  Fortunately, the sand siphon is much 
> easier to exit than enter.  I went there a couple of years later, but never 
> went much farther than the twin rooms.
> 
> Steve, you want to do Fool's Crawl?  I am sure that we can get some poor fool 
> to push a camera ahead of him or her and we can watch it from the comfort of 
> our respective living rooms.
> Mike
> 
> On 3/11/2014 8:39 AM, Steve Peerman wrote:
> Mike,
>  An interesting topic, and it brings back memories -- but not of Fool's 
> Crawl, because I wasn't on any of those trips.  I've never been through 
> Fool's Crawl -- it had to have been someone else.  
> 
>  One interesting crawlway memory that I have involves Russell's Crawl, not 
> far from the entrance of Fort Stanton Cave.   Russell's Crawl is not muddy 
> like Fool's Crawl, but does have a section where one has to "swim" through 
> the sand that almost fills the crawlway.   At any rate, I was in Russell's 
> Crawl during an SWR regional many years ago, when a desperate need to visit 
> the rest room hit me (take a dump; pinch a log; drop a load; i.e., defecate). 
>   I did not have a burrito bag with me.  
>  I faced the choice of using my pack as a toilet or attempting to make it to 
> the surface to the one-holer that used to be just downhill from the fence 
> gate.  A number of issues were on my mind.  #1 -- I had to swim through the 
> sand crawl -- not an easy task, even when you don't have something else 
> "pressing".  #2, there is a substantial amount of vertical relief between 
> Russell's Crawl and the surface.  Exercise generally acts as a stimulant for 
> a bowel movement.   #3 -- the main and fence gates would likely be open, 
> considering that this was a regional, but perhaps not.  Any unnecessary 
> delays could be messy.  #4 -- (my worst fear) the toilet might be occupied.  
>  I told my companions about my dilemma, and they did not see using my pack as 
> a toilet as a viable option in the small passage.  So I began the journey to 
> the surface.  You know how everything seems to take longer when you are in a 
> hurry?  The swim through the sand crawl seemed to take forever.  Even though 
> it was only maybe 10 or 15 feet long, progress seemed to go by fractions of 
> an inch.  Once out of the crawlway, I was on a dead run for the surface.  The 
> main gate was fortunately open.   I recall passing another group in the 
> entrance sink.  I didn't pause for conversation, but said, "you didn't lock 
> the gate did you?"   "Ah no, what's the hurry?"  Perhaps they saw the 
> desperation in my countenance.  I don't know, I didn't wait around to discuss 
> the matter.  I flew out the gate and headed down the hill, yelling, "anyone 
> in there?" as I approached.  The gods were smiling.  It was unoccupied.
>  Relief.  I made it.  
>  Moral of the story -- always have a burrito bag.  Or better yet, visit the 
> bathroom before the caving trip.
> 
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Michael Lorimer wrote:
> 
> I would like open up a new discussion thread.  We have all had many wonderful 
> caving experiences, some of them bordering on the fantastic.  I would like to 
> start the ball rolling with crawlways.  How about writing something about 
> your best or worst crawlway experience?  The good, the bad, the muddiest, the 
> most horrible, the funniest.  You name it. 
> 
> Fool’s Crawl, Fort Stanton Cave, New Mexico
> 
>             I first ‘heard’ of Fool’s Crawl when I saw it in 1970 on the 
> standard map that the BLM handed out with its permits.  While I was 
> interested, I was too busy digging with Lee Skinner and “super digger” Dennis 
> Engle to check it out.  It was around the spring of 1974 that I made my first 
> attempt to worm my way through what was rumored to be a rather tight and 
> nasty crawl.  Now my memory isn’t good enough to recall those who accompanied 
> me on these trips, but I believe that Steve Peerman was on every trip.  As we 
> entered the Sewer Pipe, almost immediately we encountered water.  At first, 
> it was only a little soupy mud.  Then it became water-filled footprints.  As 
> we traveled farther into the Sewer Pipe, we sloshed through 3 inch deep 
> water.  The water became deeper as we progressed.  Soon we were sliding over 
> slick mounds of clay as the ceiling lowered and the water deepened to a 
> couple of feet.  Our little adventure was halted when we came to where the 
> cave siphoned.  I crawled to where theceiling met that water and looked to 
> see if I could spot the infamous crawl.  Nope.  From hindsight, I estimate 
> that we were some ten to twenty feet from the actual Fool’s Crawl.  As a side 
> note, there were many little irregular shaped rafts that were some 3 or 4 
> inches in diameter and composed some sort of calcareous material floating on 
> the water near the siphon.  It reminded me of the snowflakes in Snowflake 
> Passage.
> 
>             Later that year or the next year, we tried it again.  I must 
> confess that I hate tight crawlways as I am a bit claustrophobic.  With that 
> in mind, I ‘researched’ the crawl by talking to veteran cavers.  What I heard 
> was basically, “It is tight, but it opens up rather quickly.”  Because of my 
> fear of tight spaces, I led.  If I can keep moving, if only inch by painful 
> inch then my mind isn’t occupied by thoughts of where I am, which is entombed 
> by millions of tons of unescapable rock.  I hate moving forward and seeing a 
> pair of boots blocking my way and having to wait for someone or many someones 
> to slither their way through a tight spot.  When I came to the crawlway, the 
> water level was down and only a puddle remained at the tightest and lowest 
> spot of the crawl.  The crawlway is roughly 15 inches wide and perhaps a foot 
> tall.  I tried to go through with my belly down and my shoulders parallel, 
> but my shoulders were too wide.  I wiggled in on my back with my right arm 
> extended over my head, pushing my pack and my carbide light-equipped helmet 
> ahead of me.  My left arm hung uselessly down at my side.  At the tightest 
> spot, I discovered that the puddle was some 6 inches deep and, with my body 
> displacing most of the water, the level rose.  Now I was in a passage with 
> water filling it to about 2 or 3 inches from the ceiling.  I remember the 
> water lapping at my face.  It was very slippery and I wiggled like an eel to 
> squeeze my body through that tight, water-soaked mud hole.  Relief flooded 
> through me when I finally exited from the fool’s part of the crawl.  Now the 
> passage had risen to a whole 14 or 15 inches and was about 3 feet wide.  The 
> ceiling, walls and floor were                 coated with wet slippery mud 
> and so was I.  It might as well have had ice for all the progress I was 
> making, but make progress I made, a half inch at a time.  After about 2 or 3 
> body lengths of slowly working my way forward, I was able to crawl on hands 
> and knees into Snowflake Passage.  I knew that I could and would take the 
> easy exit via the Skyscraper Domes.  One of the advantages of being first is 
> that you can listen to the complaints and swearing coming from deep within 
> the passage that you just vacated and greet your muddy friends as they exit.
> 
>             A year later, I tried the crawl again.  I had a fresh crop of 
> novice cavers who were willing to try something challenging.  This time 
> Fool’s Crawl was dry.  Fort Stanton Cave never quite dries out though.  Now, 
> instead of being super slippery, the walls, floor, ceiling and I were coated 
> with sticky mud.  It was like I was wearing a Velcro suit and the cave was 
> wearing the hooks.  As before, I went first as I pushed my pack and helmet 
> ahead of me.  I couldn't drag myself forward as the floor acted like glue.  I 
> had to lift my body up a half inch, push forward and come down.  Repeat. 
> Repeat.  I can’t remember how many times I did that simple action.  Once I 
> was past the tight spot, I discovered that if I lifted myself a little too 
> high, I stuck to the ceiling.  I was also sticking to the floor.  Lift, move 
> forward a 1/2 inch.  Down.  And repeat.                  Progress was made a 
> slow half inch at a time.  By comparison, being a wet muddy fish in that wet 
> muddy crawl was easier (but not by much), than being a caving "tar baby" in a 
> tight passage coated with the sticky equivalent of caver tar.  That was the 
> last time I went through Fool’s Crawl.  I imagine that the crawl hasn’t 
> changed since Steve and I crawled through it some 30 years ago.  If you are 
> inclined to brave the tight stuff and would like to sample a bit of 
> claustrophobia, you might give Fool’s Crawl a try.  I am too old and too fat 
> to do it again.  Thank goodness. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael D. Lorimer
> 1826 Mount Joy Dr.
> San Antonio, TX 78232
> 575 644-1763
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>                     "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by 
> the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, 
> Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your                 
>     sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
>     attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael D. Lorimer
> 1826 Mount Joy Dr.
> San Antonio, TX 78232
> 575 644-1763
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