Good morning all......hype and shame on NGS.   For those of you who are 
concerned by this new trend on the NGS Channel go to the following link and 
sign the petition to ask NGS Channel to stop their hype and pull programs such 
as Diggers!  That program alone has created more unintended consequences 
(called looting and digging on federal and state lands) of our heritage than 
just about any others.  The National Conference of State Historic Preservation 
Officers and the World Congress of Archaeology have signed on as have dozens of 
other organizations and concerned folks. 

Several Cavers have already signed, but in view of this email trail perhaps 
some of the rest of you will sign as well. Check out the details and if you 
have additional questions let me know.  Thanks.
Lynda

 
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-national-geographic-channel-the-travel-channel-spike-tv-stop-airing-their-digger-programs-3?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created




From: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:18 PM
To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas 
Subject: Re: [SWR] Tienkengs

        Very informative explanation!  Even without having been to the 
Chinese karst, I could smell the hype.  Nothing seemed that unusual about 
these features other than the exceptional size, and the implication that 
this was just now being discovered seemed improbable, to say the least, 
when one of the scenes shows a constructed guardrail overlooking the pit, 
and in others, trails or roads are clearly visible above.  Shame on NGS.

                                                        --Donald

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Glad you found that useful, Donald.  FYI It appears that Figure 1 of 

Tiankengs: Definition and Description, 2006, Zhu Xuewen and Tony Waltham 

http://www.speleogenesis.info/directory/karstbase/pdf/seka_pdf9541.pdf

shows EXACTLY the "mystery cave" in the Leye Karst that this film is all about. 
 (Note that "Bandong" and "Baidong" are likely the same when you  read the 
Chinese characters or pronounce then in Mandarin - there are all sorts of 
problems trying to write Mandrin in English, and then trying to figure out by 
reading the English translations if the names are really the same in Mandarin). 
 Maoqui Dong is the "incipient tienkeng" that they first rappelled into. What a 
true mystery it was for their 2013 expedition!


DirtDoc



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