texascavers Digest 18 Dec 2013 16:56:46 -0000 Issue 1900
Topics (messages 23169 through 23177):
California cave stuff
23169 by: Ted Samsel
Moaning Cave
23170 by: Mixon Bill
23171 by: Ted Samsel
23172 by: Jim Kennedy
Cenote phtography from BBC
23173 by: ralbach.austin.rr.com
Re: bats wns
23174 by: Charles Goldsmith
Spring Creek Cave update
23175 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
23176 by: Bill Steele
Conference announcement: DeepKarst 2016!
23177 by: George Veni
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http://geotripper.blogspot.com/2013/12/inside-biggest-cavern-opening-in.html
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Nice blog. Thanks, Ted. Does the guide in Moaning Cave always rappel
down into the cave while the tourists walk down the stairs, or was
this a special treat? -- Mixon
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No idea. A colleague who used to work for USGS sent me this. She now runs
GIS for the FS in California.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mixon Bill <[email protected]>wrote:
> Nice blog. Thanks, Ted. Does the guide in Moaning Cave always rappel down
> into the cave while the tourists walk down the stairs, or was this a
> special treat? -- Mixon
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The rappel is an "extra" that you buy a separate ticket for, much like their
zipline. I visited this cave a couple of years ago during the NCA convention. I
did the zipline twice, the cave tour (very short) once, and the rappel not at
all. But other convention participants did, and I have photos and video to
prove it.
Jim
Mobile email from my iPhone
> On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Ted Samsel <[email protected]> wrote:
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> No idea. A colleague who used to work for USGS sent me this. She now runs GIS
> for the FS in California.
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>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mixon Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nice blog. Thanks, Ted. Does the guide in Moaning Cave always rappel down
>> into the cave while the tourists walk down the stairs, or was this a special
>> treat? -- Mixon
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>> Make it easy this year. Just give everybody the finger.
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Pretty if unpractical.
http://www.bbc.com/travel/feature/20131209-surreal-shapes-in-mexicos-cenotes
-Robert
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From: David McGowan <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Subject: bats wns
To: [email protected]
You may find some interest in our newest wns film, Battle For Bats:
Surviving White Nose Syndrome <https://vimeo.com/76705033> produced for the
US Forest Service. Please share it with your membership and consider a link
on your website. Thanks.
Dave McGowan
Ravenswood Media
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Last Saturday 17 cavers visited Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., not far
north of Boerne. The thorough exploration and survey of this, currently the
12th longest cave in Texas, is a project of the DFW Grotto. The cavers who
enjoyed this water cave, which requires swimming, were from the DFW Grotto,
UTG, Bexar Grotto, and ASS. Some of the ASS cavers took their vertical gear
with them and climbed up rope rigged in the Shower Stall, which is becoming
calcite encrusted, and went upstream to the low airspaces.
Steve Webb (DFW), Rusty Jones (from San Antonio) and I explored 301 feet
of virgin cave passage in an upstream tributary. The cave is now 14,248 feet
(4,342m) long, which is 2.7 miles, and remains the 12th longest cave in
Texas.
Cavers who were there:
DFW Grotto - Diana Tomchick, Steve Webb, Jake McLeod, Jacqueline Hawk, Bill
Steele
UTG - Vivian Loftin, Jennifer Thompson, Guin McDaid, Andy Edwards
Bexar Grotto - Rusty Jones, Aaron Wertheim, Vickie De Leon
ASS - Daniel Rossi, Omid Kazemi, Bryce Hamilton, Gabby Obkirchner, Damien
Lerbrun-Grandie
Thanks go out to Cave Without a Name for their continued hospitality in
letting us camp there.
Bill Steele
Irving, Texas
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Post script: Steve Webb and I took our Sea Eagle 330 two-person inflatable
kayaks into the cave and succeeded in making it to the "T" intersection, 1,800
feet from the entrance. The ceiling was almost too low to make it through in a
couple of spots, but by ducking down and rocking the boat we made it.
It is also navigable to the left at the "T" for about 500 feet, so a roundtrip
is possible in an inflatable kayak (a rigid one cannot be passed through the
entrance gate) of over 4,000 feet.
Great fun.
Bill
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Last Saturday 17 cavers visited Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., not far north
> of Boerne. The thorough exploration and survey of this, currently the 12th
> longest cave in Texas, is a project of the DFW Grotto. The cavers who enjoyed
> this water cave, which requires swimming, were from the DFW Grotto, UTG,
> Bexar Grotto, and ASS. Some of the ASS cavers took their vertical gear with
> them and climbed up rope rigged in the Shower Stall, which is becoming
> calcite encrusted, and went upstream to the low airspaces.
>
> Steve Webb (DFW), Rusty Jones (from San Antonio) and I explored 301 feet of
> virgin cave passage in an upstream tributary. The cave is now 14,248 feet
> (4,342m) long, which is 2.7 miles, and remains the 12th longest cave in Texas.
>
> Cavers who were there:
>
> DFW Grotto - Diana Tomchick, Steve Webb, Jake McLeod, Jacqueline Hawk, Bill
> Steele
>
> UTG - Vivian Loftin, Jennifer Thompson, Guin McDaid, Andy Edwards
>
> Bexar Grotto - Rusty Jones, Aaron Wertheim, Vickie De Leon
>
> ASS - Daniel Rossi, Omid Kazemi, Bryce Hamilton, Gabby Obkirchner, Damien
> Lerbrun-Grandie
>
> Thanks go out to Cave Without a Name for their continued hospitality in
> letting us camp there.
>
> Bill Steele
> Irving, Texas
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Dear Friends,
Are you interested in deep groundwater flow in karst? How it affects cave and
aquifer development? Mineral deposition? Distribution of cave species? Land
management?
If so, mark 11-14 April 2016 on your calendars and come to Carlsbad, New
Mexico, USA, for DeepKarst 2016: Origins, Resources, and Management of Hypogene
Karst!
This conference will focus on hypogenic karst and all that entails. Hypogenic
karst is formed by rising groundwater and is a growing field of interest with
much to learn and refine. It is being organized by the National Cave and Karst
Research Institute of the USA in cooperation with Karst Hydrogeology and
Speleogenesis Commission of the International Union of Speleology.
For more details, visit http://deepkarst.org/ and mark it on your website. In
the coming months look for details on trips, submitting papers, registration,
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Please distribute this message to anyone who might be interested!
Thank you,
George
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