texascavers Digest 14 Feb 2014 02:40:32 -0000 Issue 1930
Topics (messages 23403 through 23411):
Re: Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
23403 by: Julie Jenkins
Re: Corvette incident, etc.
23404 by: Mallory Mayeux
New dish for next convention
23405 by: Louise Power
23406 by: Stefan Creaser
23407 by: Julia Germany
23408 by: Stefan Creaser
23410 by: Julia Germany
Save the Memorial Museum
23409 by: Louise Power
Re: Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes: Inner Space Cavern in Texas
23411 by: Logan McNatt
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Yea! I know in Austin when they find some underground void they call TCEQ or
some other supposedly concerned knowledgeable organization and very often it's
a geologist who doesn't know anything about karst (like the Round Rock
incident).
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Bill Walden <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Julie, Phil, Geary and all,
>
> As for Kentucky:
>
> In the past highway engineers didn't seem to care. Today the Kentucky
> Speleological Survey is getting weekly requests for karst information from
> construction companies, consulting companies and from the state.
>
> Bill Walden
>
>
>
>> On 2/13/2014 1:35 PM, Julie Jenkins wrote:
>> Duh, you'd think!
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Phil Winkler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 interstate
>>> hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have known of the presence
>>> of cave system there. You can see it easily on Google-Earth.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy
>>>> for sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
>>>>
>>>> When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the
>>>> museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large
>>>> sinkholes right in the trailer park.
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or
>>>> the cars.
>>>>
>>>> Geary
>>>>
>>>> From: Julia Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property
>>>> (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance if
>>>> damaged by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes.
>>>> Granted, I live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are on streets
>>>> from underground leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that
>>>> this exclusion is national, not just in cave areas.
>>>>
>>>> julia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Kerr <[email protected]>
>>>> To: texascavers <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
>>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
>>>>
>>>> FWIW.
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/
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Actually, the Corvette museum is a very popular attraction in the cave country
area in Kentucky. You always see brochures for it everywhere you go up there
and the parking lot is typically full. When I worked at Mammoth, a guy I was
dating dragged me there and there were plenty of other people there perusing
the cars. The guy wanted to go to the Corvette museum because he "wasn't into
caves." (you can guess how long that relationship lasted.)
Speaking of caves, in Kentucky, meth labs in caves are unfortunately a concern.
If you enter a cave and smell a chemical-ish smell, or see rusted barrels, etc,
you are advised to quickly exit and call the police. They could blow up. I
don't know much about the Hays county situation and it sounds like it wasn't
drug related, but it's something to be aware of, David, since you mused that
caves likely don't have "unattended explosives"...but an underground meth lab
definitely falls in that category. Be aware! And meth is not just a Kentucky
thing. :/
Mallory Mayeux
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> Warning: this email just contains inflated opinions and personal irrelevant
> stuff.
>
> I would bet more people would someday pay to see the wrecked Corvettes
> displayed as an attraction in a cave, than the museum would have ever made in
> the future, as it was probably not a profitable business, but relied heavily
> on donations and volunteers. Make lemonade when you have lots of extra
> lemons.
> The Hays County incident does not sound like a malicious stunt. Someone
> needs to store explosives somewhere safe, and they must have presumed wrong
> that their explosives would be found. I seriously doubt there are random
> caves with unattended explosives. It was probably a temporary storage for
> they were most likely to be used in the near future. I doubt it was a
> caver, but if it was, then there would only be only a handful of suspects.
> For example, name a caver that could even locate a cave in Hays County.
> Hopefully it was not placed by a teen fantasizing about a copycat-style
> terrorist attack.
> And for an update on my last personal post,,
>
> I am searching Craigslist for a roommate now. Unfortunatley, a few hours
> after I posted my CaveTex ad, one of the criminal associates of my evicted
> next door neighbor broke into the vacant apartment and I had to call the
> police again. So I put a new deadbolt on the door, and only I have a key. I
> am hoping to live there in 2 weeks, and use the old apartment across the
> hallway, as my office and storage space, but will need a roommate first.
>
> My estranged wife wants to celebrate our 13 year marriage on Valentine's Day.
> That item would never make it on to my to-do list. But I will have to
> suffer through it for the kid.
>
> David Locklear
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http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
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Would you prefer them "tenderized" first?
(Which means I should carry my cooler whenever I'm out driving ;-) )
From: Louise Power [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:35 PM
To: texas cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] New dish for next convention
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
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Stefan Creaser - don't even think about cooking Armadillos! I would have to
hurt you ;)
- from julia's cell
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 17:34, Louise Power <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
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But Vico and Gary tell me they’re really good! Best pork you’ve ever had…
Now what >was< in that pulled pork last year? ;-)
From: Julia Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:47 PM
To: Louise Power
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New dish for next convention
Stefan Creaser - don't even think about cooking Armadillos! I would have to
hurt you ;)
- from julia's cell
On Feb 13, 2014, at 17:34, Louise Power
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
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ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered
in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590
ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782
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Well, if you only pick up the hitchhikers sun bathing on the side of the road,
I won't hurt you!
- from julia's cell
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 17:56, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> But Vico and Gary tell me they’re really good! Best pork you’ve ever had…
>
> Now what >was< in that pulled pork last year? ;-)
>
> From: Julia Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:47 PM
> To: Louise Power
> Cc: texas cavers
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New dish for next convention
>
> Stefan Creaser - don't even think about cooking Armadillos! I would have to
> hurt you ;)
>
> - from julia's cell
>
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 17:34, Louise Power <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
>
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> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the
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> information in any medium. Thank you.
>
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> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590
> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782
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Got a response from Kent Calder about the email I sent him re the Memorial
Museum. We'll see what Lynn Denton does. At least we've got somebody's ear now.
If anyone wants to jump on that band wagon with a little encouragement for TSHA
to get busy, I think it might be good to strike while the iron is hot and the
subject is on his mind.
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: Get a free Texas Almanac 2014-2015 when you become a member of TSHA
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:39:47 +0000
Dear Ms. Power,
Our board and members are all about saving the Memorial Museum. Our current VP
and future president is Lynn Denton, a former director of the Memorial Museum.
We know what it is like, however, to go up against the University. You will
remember that TSHA was at UT for more than a century. We are still trying to
recover from leaving.
Thanks for your note.
Sincerely,
Kent Calder
J. Kent Calder
Executive Director
Texas State Historical Association
1155 Union Circle #311580
Denton, TX 76203
940.369.5200
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From: Louise Power <[email protected]>
Date: February 9, 2014 at 1:37:18 PM CST
To: "Kent Calder, Texas State Historical Association" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Get a free Texas Almanac 2014-2015 when you become a member of TSHA
Tell you what, Kent, when I hear that the TSHA has gotten behind the move to
keep the University of Texas, Austin, from closing the museum there, I'll join
TSHA.You can't have it both ways, either protect our heritage or just ask for
money. If you don't want to save the museum, you can stop sending me emails.
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The Texas Highway Department became aware in 1963 during the construction of
Interstate 35 through Georgetown, north of Austin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZYOtgsCrw
On 2/13/2014 5:49 PM, Bill Walden wrote:
Julie, Phil, Geary and all,
As for Kentucky:
In the past highway engineers didn't seem to care. Today the Kentucky Speleological Survey is getting weekly requests for karst information
from construction companies, consulting companies and from the state.
Bill Walden
On 2/13/2014 1:35 PM, Julie Jenkins wrote:
Duh, you'd think!
On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Phil Winkler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 interstate hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have known of
the presence of cave system there. You can see it easily on Google-Earth.
On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for
sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large
sinkholes right in the trailer park.
It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or the
cars.
Geary
*From:*Julia Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:*Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
Thanks! I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance
if damaged by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes. Granted, I live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are
on streets from underground leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that this exclusion is national, not just in cave areas.
julia
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From: John Kerr <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: texascavers <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
FWIW.
_http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/_
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