texascavers Digest 25 Aug 2013 15:03:17 -0000 Issue 1831
Topics (messages 22517 through 22526):
Re: Update ver 3.5
22517 by: Gary McDaniel
22518 by: Julia Germany
22519 by: Gill Edigar
Re: Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
22520 by: Julia Germany
22521 by: Julia Germany
22522 by: Julia Germany
22523 by: Julia Germany
Accident analysis ?
22524 by: David
Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature & Science Center
22525 by: Aimee Beveridge
Re: [2] WNS discussions on NSS page of LinkedIn
22526 by: Julia Germany
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How's the pooping?
-G
On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote:
> 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell.
> For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which
> included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I
> liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had
> passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By
> Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at
> bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the
> day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I
> still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing
> something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the
> hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never
> sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up
> soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked
> about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and
> then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first
> alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer
> and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the
> skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last
> few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or
> movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending
> beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in
> 2 more weeks.
> --Ediger
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hehehehhehehe
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McDaniel <[email protected]>
To: Gill Edigar <[email protected]>
Cc: Cavers Texas <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
How's the pooping?
-G
On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote:
3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For
the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of
course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much
for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd
abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday
last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night
on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping
Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on
my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not
quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted
with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except
when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6
blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo
cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to
the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the
fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday
I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012
NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any
kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to
be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical
labor in 2 more weeks.
--Ediger
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Acceptably well. Thanks for asking.
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Gary McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> How's the pooping?
>
> -G
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell.
> For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which
> included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I
> liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks
> had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg
> ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I
> took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing
> around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly
> doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling
> I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I
> sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit
> elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on
> the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the
> CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to
> the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the
> Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the
> fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last
> Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing
> since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little
> sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are
> still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll
> be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks.
>
> --Ediger
>
>
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All I have to say is that this is the ONLY personal email address I have ever
had since Al Gore invented the Internet.
NEVER got a virus, Trojans or other evils because I am vigilant about using
protection provided by both AOL and Norton.
If you knew what version of Windows I am running you would die from laughter,
so I won't share. TCR needs its cook extraordinaire.
julia germany
AOL user since version 1.0
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From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
To: Julia Germany <[email protected]>; Texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 2:05 am
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!!
-Stefan
________________________________________
From: Julia Germany [[email protected]]
Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Hi All!
First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only
pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded
links.
If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the
information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the
first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most
specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails.
ARGH.
Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please
resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every
variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and
finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails.
Looking forward to reading the things I missed.
Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary
email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :)
julia
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Never got a MySpace account. Reluctantly joined the FaceBook thing - but it
seems to be the only way I can find out anything about my family. Hell, I am
barely in the 21st century. I really am a CaveFrau when it comes to
technology......
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From: Fofo <[email protected]>
To: Texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 6:30 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there
on their MySpace page.
- Fofo
On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:
> All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!!
>
> -Stefan
> ________________________________________
> From: Julia Germany [[email protected]]
> Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
>
> Hi All!
>
> First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only
pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded
links.
>
> If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the
information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the
first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most
specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails.
ARGH.
>
> Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so
please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by
sending
every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and
finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails.
>
> Looking forward to reading the things I missed.
>
> Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary
email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :)
>
> julia
>
> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any
other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any
medium. Thank you.
>
> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590
> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782
>
>
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Speaking of fierce junk mail filters, less than 2% of junk mail makes it to my
account - the rest is in the AOL spam folder.
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From: Louise Power <[email protected]>
To: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>; Julia Germany <[email protected]>;
texas cavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 12:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Some of us still even use hotmail. It goes thru outlook, but the address still
works and it has a fierce junk mail filter.
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:04:52 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
>
> All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!!
>
> -Stefan
> ________________________________________
> From: Julia Germany [[email protected]]
> Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
>
> Hi All!
>
> First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only
> pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded
> links.
>
> If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the
> information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the
> first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most
> specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails.
> ARGH.
>
> Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so
> please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by
> sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz
> account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails.
>
> Looking forward to reading the things I missed.
>
> Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary
> email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :)
>
> julia
>
> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the
> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the
> information in any medium. Thank you.
>
> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590
> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782
>
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Thank you for the info Charles. Glad to know your opinion of AOL. SOOOOOO
many people give me crap for using it, but you eloquently stated what I try to
tell them.
julia
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From: Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]>
To: Fofo <[email protected]>
Cc: Texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been
recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke
for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days.
Now, before you laugh, let me explain.
Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in
working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most
people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that
claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or
not at all. Some even add more to your computer.
Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of
it.
That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care
of their own computer.
I recommend Mac's for the same reason.
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo <[email protected]> wrote:
I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there
on their MySpace page.
- Fofo
On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:
> All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!!
>
> -Stefan
> ________________________________________
> From: Julia Germany [[email protected]]
> Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
>
> Hi All!
>
> First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only
> pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded
> links.
>
> If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the
> information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the
> first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most
> specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails.
> ARGH.
>
> Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so
> please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by
> sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz
> account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails.
>
> Looking forward to reading the things I missed.
>
> Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary
> email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :)
>
> julia
>
> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the
> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the
> information in any medium. Thank you.
>
> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590
> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ,
> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782
>
>
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I presume an independent qualified caver is preparing an accident analysis
for caver consumption.
Could the severity of the accident been reduced ?
In hindsight, what could have been improved ?
It seems worth noting for a historical perspective that prior to the
accident another nearby dig was postponed due to extreme summer heat and
because local cavers were on summer vacations. Ironically, the victim was
more aware of that than typical cavers.
Age and experience do not appear to be factors, as the victim can easily
find witnesses to his qualifications. Right ?
What was the temperature in the cave ? How much water had the victim drank
?
My personal experience, is that if a person is over-exerting themselves,
and then decides to immediatly stop, that the heart freaks out. Is that
the case here ?
What kind of rest had the victim had in the hours before the event ?
Was the victim feeling well in the hour prior to the fall ?
What will the victim and other cavers do to improve safety ?
Is an accident at a digging operation really a caving accident ?
Should the Texas Caver publish the analysis once it is has been properly
dissected ?
How did the communications of responders differ from accidents in the past
in central Texas ? Meaning did CaveTex help ? or Facebook ? Or
phone-texting ? Did a phone with 3G help ?
Did I Ieave out anything out ?
Once the victim was out of the cave, everything with the treatment of the
victim was uneventful. Right ?
David Locklear
NSS #27639
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Job offerings in Austin
> From: "clk724" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [camn] Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature & Science Center
> Hi Guys,
>
> Wanted to let ya'll know about two positions that you might be interested in:
>
> First is a full-time position at the Beverly S. Sheffield Center at Barton
> Springs – close date 8/27
> https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39123
>
> The other is a 20 hour position at the Austin nature & Science Center running
> the Naturalist Workshop and Trade Counter – close date 9/05
> https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39184
>
> Please pass on to anyone who might be interested
>
> Clark Hancock, MPAff, CIT
> Exhibit & Collections Coordinator
> Austin Nature & Science Center
> 301 Nature Center Dr.
> Austin, TX 78746
> (512) 974-3870
> (fax) (512) 974-3885
>
> work schedule: Tues - Sat
>
> Everybody experiences far more than he understands.
> Yet it is experience, rather than understanding, that influences behavior.
> Marshall McLuhan
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From: National Speleological Society Group Members <[email protected]>
To: Julia G. Germany <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2013 7:07 am
Subject: [2] discussions on LinkedIn
National Speleological Society
August 25, 2013
New Discussions (2)
Has anyone considered the use of hydrogen peroxide
(H2O2) vapor in WNS-infected caves?
Started by Edward Patrick, Senior Research Scientist at Southwest Research
Institute
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Mass Spectrometry in Caves?
Started by Edward Patrick, Senior Research Scientist at Southwest Research
Institute
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