texascavers Digest 3 Sep 2013 01:55:05 -0000 Issue 1836
Topics (messages 22580 through 22584):
Early registration prices end Tuesday for National Cave and Karst Management
Symposium
22580 by: George Veni
Mars has rocks
22581 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
Kiwi Cave
22582 by: David
UT Grotto Meeting September 4th, remember the room location has changed!
22583 by: Andrea Croskrey
Re: OTR (was Mars has Rocks)
22584 by: Mark Minton
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Dear Friends,
This is your last reminder that the early registration prices for the National
Cave and Karst Management Symposium end soon and prices increase starting
Wednesday, 4 September. Register now by visiting http://nckri.org/nckms2013!
By the way, if you plan to go to the fall board meetings of the Cave Research
Foundation (CRF) and the National Speleological Society (NSS), they
respectively immediately precede and follow the Symposium at NCKRI. If you're
going be in Carlsbad anyway for one of these board meetings, don't miss this
great opportunity to also attend a great symposium. Day passes will be
available if you can't stay the entire week.
Also, in case you didn't see the announcement last week, we've adjusted the
schedule to make room for a few more presentations. If you would like to give a
talk please send us your abstract. Abstracts must include the title of the
paper, all authors' names, affiliations, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses.
The abstract can be no more than 250 words (not counting title, authors, and
contact information) and it should summarize the main facts and conclusions to
be presented at the conference; an abstract does not simply list what will be
discussed. These abstracts will be included in the Program with Abstracts
(sorry, but it is too late to include them in the Proceedings).
The deadline for second round abstracts is 15 September, 2013 but space is
limited so early submissions are more likely to be accepted. Send your
abstracts and any questions to Jim Goodbar, Program/Sessions Chairman, at
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested.
Thank you,
George
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George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>
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Mars has rocks too, and I feel certain there must be a hole there somewhere
even if it isn't in limestone.
As to keeping it to caving, what a joke! For the last year or so all I have
read on this list is a litany of age related woes, various personal
disasters, and daily updates concerning a man made hole in the ground. As for
news from Mexico, which is the main reason I joined this list, it might as
well be located on Mars!
As soon as anyone posts anything strange, interesting, or controversial
some politically correct scold will sternly remind us to keep on topic. How
excruciatingly boring!
This creeping conservatism may be the inevitable consequence not just of
the aging of individuals but of the activity as a whole; nevertheless, I, for
one, do not intend to go gently into that good night. If you can't post an
entertaining and well written account of an actual caving trip then at
least tell a few bad jokes, issue some obscenities, give us some tips on
trespassing, rant about some politics, or (my favorite) insult the beliefs of
a
few million idiots. Then, to keep on topic, use some convoluted logic to
tie it back into caving. That is the nice thing about caving, it is a huge
hole into which you can dump an unlimited amount of shit. So lighten up!
Now for the real problem. Today, this very, day is the culmination of the
very best part of caving, which is to say the Old Timers Reunion and I'm not
there. I'm not talking about that silly little homo goat roping y'all
Texicans hold, I'm talking about the real thing in WestbyGawdVirginia! Ann
broke her foot so we decided not to go since she might be tempted to dance. It
is a tragedy!
Sleazeweazel
PS: And David, please keep sending your missives from the Red Planet, I
find them to be at least mildly entertaining even if not comprehensible. If
nothing else the caving community serves as a home for wayward weirdos so we
both fit right in!
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In defense of Kiwi Cave, the small underground passage began to form
naturally probably a hundred thousand years ago. The breakdown in the cave
passage is typical. Sometime a few thousand years ago, the roof of a tiny
room in the cave opened up allowing fill to wash in. Then it collapsed.
It will take generations of cavers to remove the fill and the breakdown
from the cave. But someday, the biggest cave in Hays County will be found
there. Something paleontological could possibly be found someday. Right
? I would bet one could find a caver with a background in geology, that
can confirm the speleogenisis of the future Kiwi Caverns.
I will not.dig anymore in 2013 due to issues on the homefront. But I
encourage you all to "safely" dig there.
I can report that I did attend the previously posted caver garage sale.
David Locklear
P.S. it is very likely I will be homeless in the coming days. A new
friend, is offering me shelter. I have an urgent need to tow my 2002
hybrid-Honda Insight and my motorcycle to a free secure location, far away
from Arcola. And I am going to need to find a temporary home for my 15
beloved fish.
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Howdy Texas Cavers!
Pete and Colin Strickland will be giving the UT Grotto presentation
September 4th, 2013. They attended the same pre-ICS cave camp in the
Czech Republic, so join us this Wednesday and you'll get to hear about this
trip from the perspective of father and son. See you there!
I'd also like to remind people that the room location for the UT Grotto
meetings has changed. We will now be in Burdine 134. Follow this link to a
map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html
For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org
Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for
happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com
Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair
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Sleaze,
Too bad you didn't make it to OTR. It was a hell of a
party, as usual, in spite of nearly being flooded out on Wednesday
and Thursday. (People were canoeing through the campground, which
then became a giant mud hole.) Nevertheless good times were had by
roughly 1500 people. The Oktoberfest theme (OTRberfest) was well
received. In my own case, we broke through in a dig we have been
pursuing for a couple of years that might provide the connection
between a couple of major systems in Germany Valley. It will be
historic if that comes to pass. Maybe you can make it next year when
the theme will be Cavestock (based on Woodstock), if anyone can
remember what that was like...
Mark
At 10:11 AM 9/1/2013, [email protected] wrote:
Mars has rocks too, and I feel certain there must be a hole there
somewhere even if it isn't in limestone.
As to keeping it to caving, what a joke! For the last year or so all
I have read on this list is a litany of age related woes, various
personal disasters, and daily updates concerning a man made hole in
the ground. As for news from Mexico, which is the main reason I
joined this list, it might as well be located on Mars!
As soon as anyone posts anything strange, interesting, or
controversial some politically correct scold will sternly remind us
to keep on topic. How excruciatingly boring!
This creeping conservatism may be the inevitable consequence not
just of the aging of individuals but of the activity as a whole;
nevertheless, I, for one, do not intend to go gently into that good
night. If you can't post an entertaining and well written account of
an actual caving trip then at least tell a few bad jokes, issue some
obscenities, give us some tips on trespassing, rant about some
politics, or (my favorite) insult the beliefs of a few million
idiots. Then, to keep on topic, use some convoluted logic to tie it
back into caving. That is the nice thing about caving, it is a huge
hole into which you can dump an unlimited amount of shit. So lighten up!
Now for the real problem. Today, this very, day is the culmination
of the very best part of caving, which is to say the Old Timers
Reunion and I'm not there. I'm not talking about that silly little
homo goat roping y'all Texicans hold, I'm talking about the real
thing in WestbyGawdVirginia! Ann broke her foot so we decided not to
go since she might be tempted to dance. It is a tragedy!
Sleazeweazel
PS: And David, please keep sending your missives from the Red
Planet, I find them to be at least mildly entertaining even if not
comprehensible. If nothing else the caving community serves as a
home for wayward weirdos so we both fit right in!
Please reply to [email protected]
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