Sleaze,

Too bad you didn't make it to OTR. It was a hell of a party, as usual, in spite of nearly being flooded out on Wednesday and Thursday. (People were canoeing through the campground, which then became a giant mud hole.) Nevertheless good times were had by roughly 1500 people. The Oktoberfest theme (OTRberfest) was well received. In my own case, we broke through in a dig we have been pursuing for a couple of years that might provide the connection between a couple of major systems in Germany Valley. It will be historic if that comes to pass. Maybe you can make it next year when the theme will be Cavestock (based on Woodstock), if anyone can remember what that was like...

Mark

At 10:11 AM 9/1/2013, [email protected] wrote:
Mars has rocks too, and I feel certain there must be a hole there somewhere even if it isn't in limestone.

As to keeping it to caving, what a joke! For the last year or so all I have read on this list is a litany of age related woes, various personal disasters, and daily updates concerning a man made hole in the ground. As for news from Mexico, which is the main reason I joined this list, it might as well be located on Mars!

As soon as anyone posts anything strange, interesting, or controversial some politically correct scold will sternly remind us to keep on topic. How excruciatingly boring!

This creeping conservatism may be the inevitable consequence not just of the aging of individuals but of the activity as a whole; nevertheless, I, for one, do not intend to go gently into that good night. If you can't post an entertaining and well written account of an actual caving trip then at least tell a few bad jokes, issue some obscenities, give us some tips on trespassing, rant about some politics, or (my favorite) insult the beliefs of a few million idiots. Then, to keep on topic, use some convoluted logic to tie it back into caving. That is the nice thing about caving, it is a huge hole into which you can dump an unlimited amount of shit. So lighten up!

Now for the real problem. Today, this very, day is the culmination of the very best part of caving, which is to say the Old Timers Reunion and I'm not there. I'm not talking about that silly little homo goat roping y'all Texicans hold, I'm talking about the real thing in WestbyGawdVirginia! Ann broke her foot so we decided not to go since she might be tempted to dance. It is a tragedy!

Sleazeweazel

PS: And David, please keep sending your missives from the Red Planet, I find them to be at least mildly entertaining even if not comprehensible. If nothing else the caving community serves as a home for wayward weirdos so we both fit right in!

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