Some of you asked about the rock shelter formation near Timpson, Texas.

I found one web-site mentioning it,

http://batsoftexas.com/species/perimyotis-subflavus/

"cave between Timpson and Gary, 1 (SFASU); 3 mi N Timpson on Rose Hill Rd.,
Cave Springs"

That is about a mile east of where my fuzzy memory tells me it was located.
   I looked at Google satelite imagery and couldn't find anything that
looked familiar.

map coordinates of

31.945899,-94.396453  would be a wild guess only, as it has been 20 years
since I was
there.     That should be within 2 miles of it though.    The locals know
about it, but I
don't know if they have a name for it, or even if it is still there.

I would guess that it is more of an interest to biologist, than cavers, as
I am guessing
there are microscopic organisms in the water.     I missed a good photo of
a deer drinking in the entrance, when I first arrived there around 1987.
However, it is a scenic spot and nothing that scenic for many miles.

The water trickled out of a passage that was about 1 foot long and 6 inches
high and a 1 foot wide.   That may be an exaggeration.

The cave was on private property about 100 feet north of a clay road that
dead ended and that road ran westward.   Only 2 or 3 roads in that area
match my memory of that.

I bet there are similar features all over that part of Texas, and I have
seen 4 of them,
and looked for many others that were rumored.

http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1141&context=sinkhole_2013

The best cave by far is Gunnel's Cave, which some of you have been in.

The picture link below was taken 2 years ago, of the resurgence entrance of
Gunnels's Cave.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6079/6110260428_5496c7fa50_b.jpg

I took a nearly identical picture in 1987.     Since the formation is a
sandstone-clay material, one might speculate there would be lots of
erosion.     If the angle of the photo
is the same, then the gravel bed was not there before.    It is too bad the
locals didn't keep a recorded history of rumored events at this cave, such
as sorority hazing making the new girls spend the night in the cave, or a
hobo that lived in the the cave most of his life, or 2 teens that died
driving their truck off into the sinkhole, or arrowheads that were found in
the cave, etc.

I would guess that I have taken about 9 people to the cave, not counting a
caving trip around 1998, that several GHG'rs attended.    It is 176 miles
from Houston, and 174 miles to College Station, meaning it is easier and
more fun to go caving in the Hill Country.

I would like to point out that old-timer Tom Warden of Texarkana was the
one that turned me on to all of the caves in east Texas, but his notes that
he left were quite vague, and it took some effort to find the 4 that I
located, the 2 others being Carey Lake Cave, and a really tiny
insignificant cave in the town of Lone Star.

It appears there is a lack of info on the web related to these
pseudo-caves.   But the TSS does have a respectable publication available
on the subject, thanks to Jerry Atkinson.

http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/publications/images/EastTexas.jpg

An enthusiatic caver using the web, could probably discover a new
pseudo-cave in east Texas.

David Locklear



P.S.   My new ex-girlfriend is offering me temporary shelter while she is
out of town.  No idea how long that will last, as she is bi-polar.
Fortunately for me, she plans to  be gone at least 3 weeks.

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