texascavers Digest 7 Sep 2013 04:16:50 -0000 Issue 1838
Topics (messages 22595 through 22606):
cave gating help
22595 by: Jim Kennedy
Re: Non Cave related--Concrete arrows - interesting.....
22596 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
Re: TSA Elections
22597 by: ellie.thoene.gmail.com
22598 by: Bill Steele
22599 by: Julia Germany
22600 by: Julia Germany
22602 by: Jim Kennedy
NSS News - September issue
22601 by: David
Caver-robot future related
22603 by: David
Mallory Update, Thursday, Sept.5, 2013
22604 by: Emily McGowan
LNF sinkhole accident link
22605 by: Bill Bentley
Possible sinkhole / tunnel
22606 by: Bill Bentley
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Any Texas cavers available and willing to drive north with me later this
month to work on a cave gate in New York? We'll be gone a week. Contact me
offlist, please.
-- Jim
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I ran across a couple of them when I was working on a seismograph crew in
southern Wyoming the winter of 1959-60. None of us knew what they were, but
our landman figured it out.
DirtDoc
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Texas Cavers,
I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA
elections!
Candidates:
Chairman- Kurt Menking
Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
Secretary -Heather Tucek
Treasurer- Anne Scott
I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you
need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now.
Ellie Watson
TSA Nomination Chair
On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Texas Cavers,
>
> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological
> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I have
> volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has agreed to
> assist on the committee.
>
> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me.
> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all
> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member, and
> you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA.
>
> Officers positions:
>
> Chairman- OPEN
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- OPEN
>
> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek
> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions are
> OPEN open for 2014.
>
> Thank you to all current officers for your service.
>
> My goal is to run an electronic ballot near the beginning of October.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ellie Watson
> TSA Election Committee Chair.
> The Texas Speleological Association is a Regional Association of the National
> Speleological Society. The purposes of TSA are to promote the study and
> science of speleology, the protection of caves and the preservation of
> natural and cultural resources within caves, the education of members and the
> general public, and communication and coordination of speleological
> activities in the State of Texas. TSA supports the aims and goals of the
> National Speleological Society.
>
>
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Wow! Best yet!
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Texas Cavers,
>
> I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA
> elections!
>
> Candidates:
>
> Chairman- Kurt Menking
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>
> I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you
> need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now.
>
> Ellie Watson
> TSA Nomination Chair
>
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Texas Cavers,
>>
>> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological
>> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I have
>> volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has agreed
>> to assist on the committee.
>>
>> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me.
>> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all
>> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member, and
>> you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA.
>>
>> Officers positions:
>>
>> Chairman- OPEN
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- OPEN
>>
>> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek
>> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions are
>> OPEN open for 2014.
>>
>> Thank you to all current officers for your service.
>>
>> My goal is to run an electronic ballot near the beginning of October.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ellie Watson
>> TSA Election Committee Chair.
>> The Texas Speleological Association is a Regional Association of the
>> National Speleological Society. The purposes of TSA are to promote the study
>> and science of speleology, the protection of caves and the preservation of
>> natural and cultural resources within caves, the education of members and
>> the general public, and communication and coordination of speleological
>> activities in the State of Texas. TSA supports the aims and goals of the
>> National Speleological Society.
>>
>>
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Great job, Ellie and Mark!
Many thanks to the folks on the slate - excellent to see some new names/people
step up.
I don't know if it's too late, and it's been said by others before, and by all
means no offense to those already on the slate, however it is always good to
have more than one person per position to choose from when voting. Especially
if for some reason someone has to drop out at the last minute.
With that said, I know what a challenge it is to get even one person to step
up. I know I am not currently in a position to do so because I am chair of the
NSS and TCMA grants committees and those are full time jobs in addition to the
paying one.
And for what it's worth, these folks currently on the ballot have my full
support and vote! I know each of you, have caved with most of you, and know
you will represent the TSA well with your fresh ideas and actions.
I am equally excited by electronic voting!
- from julia's cell
On Sep 5, 2013, at 13:50, [email protected] wrote:
> Texas Cavers,
>
> I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA
> elections!
>
> Candidates:
>
> Chairman- Kurt Menking
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>
> I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you
> need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now.
>
> Ellie Watson
> TSA Nomination Chair
>
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Texas Cavers,
>>
>> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological
>> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I have
>> volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has agreed
>> to assist on the committee.
>>
>> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me.
>> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all
>> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member, and
>> you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA.
>>
>> Officers positions:
>>
>> Chairman- OPEN
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- OPEN
>>
>> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek
>> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions are
>> OPEN open for 2014.
>>
>> Thank you to all current officers for your service.
>>
>> My goal is to run an electronic ballot near the beginning of October.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ellie Watson
>> TSA Election Committee Chair.
>> The Texas Speleological Association is a Regional Association of the
>> National Speleological Society. The purposes of TSA are to promote the study
>> and science of speleology, the protection of caves and the preservation of
>> natural and cultural resources within caves, the education of members and
>> the general public, and communication and coordination of speleological
>> activities in the State of Texas. TSA supports the aims and goals of the
>> National Speleological Society.
>>
>>
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Hey Comrade!
Did not know you speak Russian....very cool.
And you are a democratic comrade - even cooler!
Hope everyone has paid their dues and exercises their right to vote.
- from julia's cell
On Sep 5, 2013, at 14:53, russ johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Да голосовать или не голосовать ... советском стиле ... вперед товарищей
> спелеолога
>
> (vote yes or do not vote ... soviet style ... onward caver comrades)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wow! Best yet!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Texas Cavers,
>>>
>>> I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA
>>> elections!
>>>
>>> Candidates:
>>>
>>> Chairman- Kurt Menking
>>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>>> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>>>
>>> I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If
>>> you need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now.
>>>
>>> Ellie Watson
>>> TSA Nomination Chair
>>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Texas Cavers,
>>>>
>>>> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological
>>>> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I
>>>> have volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has
>>>> agreed to assist on the committee.
>>>>
>>>> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me.
>>>> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all
>>>> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member,
>>>> and you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA.
>>>>
>>>> Officers positions:
>>>>
>>>> Chairman- OPEN
>>>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>>>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>>>> Treasurer- OPEN
>>>>
>>>> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek
>>>> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions
>>>> are OPEN open for 2014.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to all current officers for your service.
>>>>
>>>> My goal is to run an electronic ballot near the beginning of October.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Ellie Watson
>>>> TSA Election Committee Chair.
>>>> The Texas Speleological Association is a Regional Association of the
>>>> National Speleological Society. The purposes of TSA are to promote the
>>>> study and science of speleology, the protection of caves and the
>>>> preservation of natural and cultural resources within caves, the education
>>>> of members and the general public, and communication and coordination of
>>>> speleological activities in the State of Texas. TSA supports the aims and
>>>> goals of the National Speleological Society.
>
>
>
> --
> Russ K. Johnson
> Llano, TX
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Vote for Don!
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: TSA Elections
Texas Cavers,
I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA
elections!
Candidates:
Chairman- Kurt Menking
Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
Secretary -Heather Tucek
Treasurer- Anne Scott
I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you
need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now.
Ellie Watson
TSA Nomination Chair
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That one issue is worth the annual membership fee.
I want that cover photo life size hanging on the wall in my house someday.
David Locklear
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The Mars rover Curiosity has traveled 150 meters in one day.
My question is,
what is the cave distance record for a remotely controlled device, or what
are some of the significant records in speleo-robotics ?
I think Don Cooper holds the Texas record at Kiwi Cave with his
semi-indestructible speleo-copter.
David Locklear
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>From her mother:
Good news,
Mallory is being discharged from Touchstone, Thursday, September 12--next
week. She is thrilled. She hates being at this place, not because it is bad
or the people are not nice. She just has had enough of living in an
institution-as she says it, she is done. She so wants to be home. They had a
meeting today with the doctors, therapists and her ( I was not allowed at
this meeting). We will have a meeting with them before discharge. She is
progressing well with what they focus on in their therapy. They are
adjusting her therapy so it will be more relevant for what she needs to get
back to work and to drive. So the rest of her progress will be accomplished
with time, rest at our house, family, and then back to Houston for
outpatient care at Tirr where she can be in her apartment. I will learn some
more Houston roads. But actually I was getting comfortable with it as long
as I stayed off the Interstate.
All you parents can appreciate this. I had to go back to the hotel late last
night and I receive a text from Mal-"Text me when you are safe in your
room." That was a first. I am the one who asks that. So today I mention how
funny that was. Her response," Mom, you don't understand. I worry." I looked
at her and said, "You don't think we have worried all these years?" Her
response, "Yes, but now I understand how fast something can happen." If they
only knew when they were teenagers.
I am going to have to do some head adjusting. It's going to be rough for me
to let Mal get back into the real world. I suspect I am now a totally
paranoid person. It will be good to get back home and to our world. This
whole time has just been surreal. You want to just wake up and find it
didn't happen. But it did and as Mal keeps saying,"We're all going to be
fine." And she is right. We are so fortunate. I think back on all the
horrible things the doctors said could happen and they didn't. I truly
believe all the prayers and the fine medical staff brought our Mallory back
to us. I could not have done it without all the support you gave. Even when
there was nothing else I needed, knowing that I could ask for help and you
would have been there in a heartbeat was such a consolation. Steve, Caleb,
and I never felt alone. That was a godsend. I learned a lot about reaching
out to people and hope I am a much better person. Good night. I have to go
get the clothes out of the dryer. This is interesting. Washing clothes in a
hotel!
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From: Carol Belski
To: NM Caver List
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link
Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole near
Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest on
Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.
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>From Jacqui Thomas
Lubbock.
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -KCBD 11 in Lubbock
A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.
Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard
collapsed.
"We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and
everything sank," Smithwick said.
Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.
He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.
Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.
Now the question is, who built it?
Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.
"First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground
tunnel for 100 years."
Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.
He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to
figure out if they need take action.
The area has been marked off with caution tape.
We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel
11.
Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11
Lubbock
Jacqui
On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
Probably Bill's private cave.
Sent via C=64 Mobile
On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery" <[email protected]> wrote:
A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the
local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this?
Kerry
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