I stand corrected. Charlie Loving informs me that the cave with a train going uphill at about 45 degrees to the entrance was Grutas de Garcia, not Bustamonte. My memory is a bit fuzzy on all this but I didn't imagine it, the sacred glasses are in the dish drainer at this very moment! Charlie, are you a descendant of Oliver Loving of the famous Goodnight Loving trail? I have just read that Loving county Texas has the smallest population of any county in the entire United States. How cool! Maybe I should move there? Are there any trees? Sleaze