texascavers Digest 22 Aug 2012 19:57:19 -0000 Issue 1612
Topics (messages 20562 through 20567):
3-D Panoramas
20562 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
Re: Trogloraptor!
20563 by: Gill Edigar
Re: Looking for a new caving vehicle?
20564 by: Justin Haynes
20565 by: Justin Haynes
TSA Website Search Engine
20566 by: Butch Fralia
Carbon and Boundaries in Karst Symposium deadline update
20567 by: George Veni
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3-D Panoramas - by AirPano
A bit off-topic, but there IS a cave association.
I have seen a number of examples of this interesting technology over the last
year, including from inside a couple of caves in Slovenia. Here is one of the
karst towers in Ha Long Bay, Vietnam, where we were in December and will be
again with a group of hydrologists and cavers in November.
http://www.airpano.ru/files/Halong-Bay-Vietnam/2-2
Click on the screen, then on the upper right of the panorama of Ha Long Bay is
a link to a panorama Inside The Cave : Hang Dau Go, a well-known tourist cave
in one of the islands in the bay.
They (apparently a bunch of Russians) have an interesting web site. Take a look
at their home page from the above link.
Of course, by "traveling" in this vicarious way, you miss all the joys of the
smells, the tastes, and intestinal distress
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From: Keith Ortiz <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Trogloraptor!
To: [email protected]
Remember to shake out your bedding when base-camping in Oregon.
K
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From: sivtac Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Michael Conefrey
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Trogloraptor!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2189831/Meet-cave-robber--ent
irely-new-family-spider-amateur-naturalists-cave-Oregon.html
An entire new family? How cool is that?
Mike C. =
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On a slightly more practical (depending on your definition of practical)
note, if you can snatch up a diesel International Scout II between the
years of 1976-1980, *especially* 1980. They will seem overpriced compared
to Kelley blue book and for good reason. If they are in good condition
they will last for 100s of thousands of miles.
The Diesel engines in these cars were Nissans:
- Nissan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan>
SD33<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_SD_engine#Straight_6>(
diesel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine>) (naturally
aspirated)
- Nissan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan>
SD33T<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_SD_engine#Straight_6>(turbo
diesel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_diesel>—1980 only)
So why scout? They were built like tanks. Why diesel? I won't make the
case for diesel here over gasoline though I do prefer diesel engines:
Though Scout did a good job on their gasoline engines, all the parts around
the engine went to the lowest bidder. so the distributor might have been
from AMC and the alternator from some other cheap source that would break
(likely shaken to death by the stiff suspension. :-) ). The diesels being
from Nissan and being quite solid finding appplications also in industry,
are very servicable and long lasting.
And why don't you hear more about these wonderful vehicles? Only ~30000
were made per year from 1976-1980, and only ~10000 of them made in 1980,
the last year of production. During that year, only a fraction were
diesels.
So in other words, they are disappearing. And if you can find one, you can
have a very good caving vehicle for a reasonable price
-Justin
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Don Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
> At some level - they are very large phallus symbols.
>
> -WaV
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Ted Samsel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I feel so inadequate since my carbon footprint is so miniscule. Sob,
> > whimper. <snork>
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Louise Power <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Try one of these:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://editorial.autos.msn.com/14-extreme-campers-built-for-off-roading?icid=autos_3335
> >
> >
>
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Oh, meant to say 1980 is desirable because it was the only year with the
SD33T or turbocharged diesel engine. Also all diesel scouts were 4 wheel
drive with the means to shift between 2 wheel and 4 wheel. They all had
hefty Dana transfer cases. So if you see a 1980 diesel scout, you don't
have to ask many questions about options other than automatic or manual
transmission, and you may want to ask some questions about gear ratio.
At any rate, there is an active community, so you wouldn't be abandoned
with an uncommon car that no one has. Also it was a car made in the US
(and the Nissan engine was a popular one in other applications), so finding
parts isn't too hard:
Community site:
http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/index.php
-Justin
(I used to have 1978 gas powered scout in the 90s which I loved. I'd
probably shop for one of these diesels myself if I didn't already have a
1984 Mercedes-benz 300d)
-Justin
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Justin Haynes <[email protected]>wrote:
> On a slightly more practical (depending on your definition of practical)
> note, if you can snatch up a diesel International Scout II between the
> years of 1976-1980, *especially* 1980. They will seem overpriced compared
> to Kelley blue book and for good reason. If they are in good condition
> they will last for 100s of thousands of miles.
>
> The Diesel engines in these cars were Nissans:
>
> - Nissan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan>
> SD33<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_SD_engine#Straight_6>(
> diesel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine>) (naturally
> aspirated)
> - Nissan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan>
> SD33T<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_SD_engine#Straight_6>(turbo
> diesel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_diesel>—1980 only)
>
> So why scout? They were built like tanks. Why diesel? I won't make the
> case for diesel here over gasoline though I do prefer diesel engines:
> Though Scout did a good job on their gasoline engines, all the parts around
> the engine went to the lowest bidder. so the distributor might have been
> from AMC and the alternator from some other cheap source that would break
> (likely shaken to death by the stiff suspension. :-) ). The diesels being
> from Nissan and being quite solid finding appplications also in industry,
> are very servicable and long lasting.
>
> And why don't you hear more about these wonderful vehicles? Only ~30000
> were made per year from 1976-1980, and only ~10000 of them made in 1980,
> the last year of production. During that year, only a fraction were
> diesels.
>
> So in other words, they are disappearing. And if you can find one, you
> can have a very good caving vehicle for a reasonable price
>
> -Justin
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Don Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At some level - they are very large phallus symbols.
>>
>> -WaV
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Ted Samsel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I feel so inadequate since my carbon footprint is so miniscule. Sob,
>> > whimper. <snork>
>> >
>> > Ted
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Louise Power <[email protected]
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Try one of these:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://editorial.autos.msn.com/14-extreme-campers-built-for-off-roading?icid=autos_3335
>> >
>> >
>>
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The Google search engine on the TSA website homepage
http://www.cavetexas.org/ has been out of commission apparently for awhile.
It's fixed now, I finally got the new code Google wants you to use for
custom search and updated the website. It only searches the TSA website.
It's working again.
Butch Fralia
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Dear Friends,
Geology, biology, chemistry, hydrology, petroleum, climate change? What
about the Grand Canyon! If any of these are your interest, I encourage you
to attend the Karst Waters Institute (KWI) Carbon and Boundaries in Karst
Symposium on 7-11 January 2013. NCKRI is delighted to work with KWI and host
this conference at NCKRI Headquarters in Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA. For more
details and to register, go to www.nckri.org/kwi2013.
Please note that if you wish to attend the post-conference excursion to the
Grand Canyon, your registration for that trip must be received by 15 October
2012!
Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested.
I hope to see you there in January.
George
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