texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2012 01:23:44 -0000 Issue 1613

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texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2012 01:23:44 -0000 Issue 1613

Topics (messages 20568 through 20580):

Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)
        20568 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
        20575 by: germanyj.aol.com
        20576 by: Andy Edwards
        20577 by: Diana Tomchick
        20578 by: Butch Fralia
        20579 by: caverarch
        20580 by: Mark Minton

Government Canyon Karst Survey Project
        20569 by: Marvin and Lisa

New MaCa Supt.
        20570 by: Preston Forsythe

Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7
        20571 by: Kurt L. Menking

Re: San Antonio bat question..
        20572 by: Don Cooper
        20573 by: Missy Singleton
        20574 by: Fran Hutchins

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Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly. 



  

Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it. 



  

DirtDoc. 



  

Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt 
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html 

Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit 
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html 

Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch 
http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html 

Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit 
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html 

GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE 
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/ 

ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG 
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/ 

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Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube? 

I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp out 
next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the fotos show 
that everyone used carbide, with back up lights.  Beautiful cave bacon foto lit 
by carbide.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html

julia

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)



Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly.
 
Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.
 
DirtDoc.
 
Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html

Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html

Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html

Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html

GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/

ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/


 

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So weird, that's some serious gear conformity going on there :)

Seriously, why do they all have those ridiculous lamps, even the guy who
has a Scurion?

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM, <germa...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube?
>
> I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp
> out next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the
> fotos show that everyone used carbide, with back up lights.  Beautiful cave
> bacon foto lit by carbide.
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html
>
> julia
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
> To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)
>
>  Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German
> weekly.
>
> Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.
>
> DirtDoc.
>
> Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html
>
> Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html
>
> Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
> http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html
>
> Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html
>
> GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/
>
> ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/
>
>

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1) Because they wanted the carbide lamps for the nice lighting effects in the 
photos,

2) Because carbide is cheaper in Europe and easier to obtain than in America 
(no post 9/11 hangups),

3) Because caves in the Alps are a whole lot colder than caves in Texas, and a 
carbide lamp is a potential heat source in an emergency.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)





On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Andy Edwards wrote:

> So weird, that's some serious gear conformity going on there :)
>
> Seriously, why do they all have those ridiculous lamps, even the guy who has 
> a Scurion?
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM, <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube?
>
> I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp out 
> next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the fotos show 
> that everyone used carbide, with back up lights.  Beautiful cave bacon foto 
> lit by carbide.
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html
>
> julia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
> To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)
>
> Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly.
>
> Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.
>
> DirtDoc.
>
> Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html
>
> Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html
>
> Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
> http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html
>
> Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html
>
> GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/
>
> ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/
>
>


________________________________

UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.

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The carbide lamps with the tubes are fondly referred to as ceiling burners.  
The generator hangs off your belt.  Used to be real popular with the Mexico 
cavers until all the cool electric lamps were available.  The old carbide 
helmet lamps were good for about 3 hours while the ceiling burners would go a 
lot longer.

 

Butch

 

P.S.: note that I had helmet lamps like a premier (also have a few in a modest 
collection) and never a ceiling burner.

 

From: germa...@aol.com [mailto:germa...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:29 PM
To: dirt...@comcast.net; s...@caver.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)

 


Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube? 

I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp out 
next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the fotos show 
that everyone used carbide, with back up lights.  Beautiful cave bacon foto lit 
by carbide.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html

julia

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)

Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly.

 

Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.

 

DirtDoc.

 

Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
 <http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html> 
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html

Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
 <http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html> 
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html

Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
 <http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html> 
http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html

Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
 <http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html> 
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html

GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
 <http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/> 
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/

ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
 <http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/> 
http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/

 

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4) Because carbide lighting is still superior in terms of visual appeal to the 
human eye


and, 


5) in terms of lighting floor (tripping) hazards in a manner that does not wash 
out their three-dimensionality.


Europeans still love those ceiling-burners! 


Roger G. Moore



-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Tomchick <diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
To: Andy Edwards <a...@jedwards.name>
Cc: <germa...@aol.com> <germa...@aol.com>; <dirt...@comcast.net> 
<dirt...@comcast.net>; <s...@caver.net> <s...@caver.net>; 
<Texascavers@texascavers.com> <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)


1) Because they wanted the carbide lamps for the nice lighting effects in the 
photos,

2) Because carbide is cheaper in Europe and easier to obtain than in America 
(no 
post 9/11 hangups),

3) Because caves in the Alps are a whole lot colder than caves in Texas, and a 
carbide lamp is a potential heat source in an emergency.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)





On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Andy Edwards wrote:

> So weird, that's some serious gear conformity going on there :)
>
> Seriously, why do they all have those ridiculous lamps, even the guy who has 
> a 
Scurion?
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM, <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube?
>
> I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp out 
next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the fotos show 
that everyone used carbide, with back up lights.  Beautiful cave bacon foto lit 
by carbide.
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html
>
> julia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
> To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)
>
> Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly.
>
> Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.
>
> DirtDoc.
>
> Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html
>
> Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html
>
> Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
> http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html
>
> Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html
>
> GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/
>
> ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/
>
>


________________________________

UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.

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--- Begin Message --- There are now a significant number of caves in the U. S. where carbide lamps are no longer allowed for environmental reasons (soot, spent carbide). Yes, carbide light is warmer, but with modern LED lights with both local spread and distant throw focusing, seeing the floor in the vicinity of your feet (tripping hazard) is not an issue. High-power LEDs also produce a surprising amount of heat, so they could theoretically be used as a heat source, albeit not as effective as carbide. In any event, carbide lighting is an anachronism that will soon disappear altogether. Are there still any significant commercial uses for carbide?

Mark

At 07:53 PM 8/23/2012, caverarch wrote:

4) Because carbide lighting is still superior in terms of visual appeal to the human eye

and,

5) in terms of lighting floor (tripping) hazards in a manner that does not wash out their three-dimensionality.

Europeans still love those ceiling-burners!

Roger G. Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Tomchick <diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
To: Andy Edwards <a...@jedwards.name>

Cc: <germa...@aol.com> <germa...@aol.com>; <dirt...@comcast.net> <dirt...@comcast.net>; <s...@caver.net> <s...@caver.net>; <Texascavers@texascavers.com> <Texascavers@texascavers.com>

Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)

1) Because they wanted the carbide lamps for the nice lighting effects in the
photos,

2) Because carbide is cheaper in Europe and easier to obtain than in America (no

post 9/11 hangups),

3) Because caves in the Alps are a whole lot colder than caves in Texas, and a

carbide lamp is a potential heat source in an emergency.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)

On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Andy Edwards wrote:

> So weird, that's some serious gear conformity going on there :)
>

> Seriously, why do they all have those ridiculous lamps, even the guy who has a Scurion?

>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM, <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Am I crazy, or are these carbide lamps connected to a tube?
>

> I like the opening foto that shows someone with the most high tech lamp out

next to a person using carbide for the same trip.  The rest of the fotos show

that everyone used carbide, with back up lights. Beautiful cave bacon foto lit

by carbide.
>

> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/schweizer-hoelloch-kaesefondue-beim-hoehlenbiwak-fotostrecke-65805.html

>
> julia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dirtdoc <dirt...@comcast.net>
> To: Cave NM <s...@caver.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:55 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] Cave articles in Spiegel (German weekly)
>

> Here are some interesting articles that appeared in Spiegel, a German weekly.

>
> Even if you don't read German, the Images tell most of it.
>
> DirtDoc.
>
> Fotostrecke: Verborgene Märchenwelt
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-86423.html
>
> Blätterhöhle in Westfalen: Abstieg ins Totenreich der Steinzeit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,845863,00.html
>
> Höhlentour in der Schweiz: Abstieg ins Höllenloch
> http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,749602,00.html
>
> Frankreich: Eingeschlossene Höhlenforscher wieder in Sicherheit
> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,669137,00.html
>
> GRAF-SEISMO-KOLUMNE AUF SPIEGEL ONLINE: RÄTSEL DER ERDE
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/graf_seismo/
>
> ZWISCHEN HIMMEL UND ERDE - NEUES AUS DER GEOFORSCHUNG
> http://www.spiegel.de/thema/zwischen_himmel_und_erde/

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net

Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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The Government Canyon Karst Survey Project will be starting up again on the
first full weekend of October, Oct. 6 and 7.
 
First weekends seem to work pretty good so until further notice plan on the
first weekend of every month - Saturday and Sunday, unless notified
otherwise.
 
We will meet at 9:00 on both mornings at the Volunteer/Research Station. To
get there take the first right after entering at the main park gate. There
will be an unlocked gate to open and close behind you. Drive on this road
for about a mile to the VRS. We usually meet in the parking lot to the right
of the building.
 
Camping is available in the volunteer campground. Contact me to set it up.
 
The goals of the project are to find, explore, survey, and inventory the
caves and karst features on Government Canyon State Natural Area.  This is a
good training environment and everyone interested is welcome.
 
Marvin Miller
(210) 415-5190

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Sarah Craighead selected as Mammoth Cave National Park superintendent

Southeast Regional Director David Vela announced the selection of Sarah 
Craighead to be the next superintendent at Mammoth Cave National Park near 
Bowling Green, Ky. Craighead currently serves as the superintendent of Death 
Valley National Park in southern California and Nevada. She will assume her new 
duties at Mammoth Cave on November 4.

"Sarah knows the value of being attuned to park resources and advancing park 
goals through partnerships and collaboration," Vela said. "With her strong 
operations background and the experience she has gained in more than 30 years 
with the National Park Service, Sarah is an obvious choice for this position. 
Not to mention the fact that she grew up in Kentucky's cave country and 
actually started her career at Mammoth Cave."

Just as many college students do, Craighead took seasonal employment at Mammoth 
Cave National Park while attending Transylvania University in Lexington, Ky., 
where she earned a bachelor of arts degree in biology in 1978.

"I worked several summers at Mammoth Cave, as a campground ranger and a cave 
guide," said Craighead. "My very first job was selling crafts at the Mammoth 
Cave Hotel. The cave was my jumping off point with the National Park Service. 
Now, more than thirty years later, I have the honor of managing the park. I 
look forward to reconnecting with park staff, retirees, and the surrounding 
communities."

Craighead has been superintendent of Death Valley National Park since 2009. At 
3.4 million acres, Death Valley is the largest national park in the continental 
U.S., and the lowest place in North America at 282 feet below sea level. 

Prior to Death Valley, Craighead served as the superintendent of Saguaro 
National Park, just outside of Tucson, Ariz. She was the first superintendent 
of Washita Battlefield National Historic Site in Cheyenne, Okla., from 
1997-2002. While there, she gained important experience in developing park 
plans and working with communities and American Indian tribes.

In her 33-year career, Craighead has also worked at Acadia National Park, 
Carlsbad Caverns National Park, Grand Canyon National Park, Manassas National 
Battlefield Park, Independence National Historical Park, and Mesa Verde 
National Park.

Craighead graduated from Caverna High School in Horse Cave, Ky., in 1974 as 
valedictorian. She is the daughter of Mrs. Jean Craighead, of Cave City, Ky.

Craighead is married to Rick Shireman, who was recently selected to be the 
Southeast Region Chief of Facility Support for the National Park Service 
Southeast Regional Office in Atlanta.

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Sorry to compete against Marvin's Government Canyon trip, but I Yesterday I 
received the OK from the Honeycreek property owner to have a trip October 6-7.  
There are several objectives including surveying a few of the other caves on 
the property.  Two are fairly small, and the other is a series of fairly tight 
pits, with a lead that was blasted in the 80's but no one has been back to 
check it out.

Andy Glusencamp is also heading up a study of the Biology on the property.  
He's putting together teams to do collections in several caves on the property. 
 Contact Andy if you want to help out with that project.

Honeycreek cave will also be open to those wishing to do survey trips, through 
trips, or other recreational trips.  Trips to the spring entrance will be 
restricted until Andy finishes his work in that area.

Camping will be available Friday and Saturday nights.

Kurt

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I've heard that it is moths.

-DC

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ted Samsel <t.b.sam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the main diet (insect-wise) of the bats around San Antonio?
>
> Ted

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--- Begin Message ---

I would say the most common bat in the San Antonio area is the Mexican-free 
tailed bat; their main diet is midges, flies, and mosquitoes.  Although I'm 
sure they also eat moths and beetles. Missy> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:44:09 
-0500
> From: wavyca...@gmail.com
> To: t.b.sam...@gmail.com
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] San Antonio bat question..
> 
> I've heard that it is moths.
> 
> -DC
> 
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ted Samsel <t.b.sam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What is the main diet (insect-wise) of the bats around San Antonio?
> >
> > Ted
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Mexican-free tailed bats are the most common in the San Antonio area. Their 
main diet are agricultural pest insects like Corn ear moth, Cotton boil Moth.  
Midges, flies, and mosquitoes would also be eaten.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Missy Singleton 
  To: wavyca...@gmail.com ; t.b.sam...@gmail.com 
  Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:16 AM
  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] San Antonio bat question..


  I would say the most common bat in the San Antonio area is the Mexican-free 
tailed bat; their main diet is midges, flies, and mosquitoes.  Although I'm 
sure they also eat moths and beetles.

  Missy> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:44:09 -0500
  > From: wavyca...@gmail.com
  > To: t.b.sam...@gmail.com
  > CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
  > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] San Antonio bat question..
  > 
  > I've heard that it is moths.
  > 
  > -DC
  > 
  > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ted Samsel <t.b.sam...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > > What is the main diet (insect-wise) of the bats around San Antonio?
  > >
  > > Ted
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