While I certainly agree with the first comments that anyone who does not actively cave in my particular interest (vertical pits or dark zone rock art) 22.74 times a week in my area of interest (whatever that may be) should not be allowed to post to a caving list on the subject of cave backup lights or other similarly nonuseful subjects, I also agree with Atkin's reply that such extraneous posts -- e.g., life-saving lighting systems, people permanently lost in Indiana, details of annual caving meetings, training sessions of various kinds, or Russian caves -- should not be censored from this list. Even with no brains left at all -- or interest in most of what's posted on internet commentary -- most of us want the choice to decide for ourselves, however unpopular that may be nowadays. We also use batch select + Delete, or Mail Message Rules to auto delete certain people (I wish) or topics. You don't have to read what you don't want.
This is certainly off-topic for cave info! John Greer ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a "real" caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(underground....not TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP
