David,
If you had attended a meeting recently you would know that GHG's web site had been stranded in cyberspace through the fault of no-one in the grotto, and that it is soon to be renovated. But this is the line in your following e-mail that I had to comment upon: Most of the caving activity in Texas is going on on Facebook. Now, David, how can I resist saying that most of the caving activity in Texas is going on IN CAVES? The only people who care about cutting edge caving, new discoveries, and the global caving community, but are really somewhat dependent on the gratifications of virtual caving are physically damaged cavers like me. And I enthusiastically use Facebook for those purposes. Roger -----Original Message----- From: David <[email protected]> To: greater_houston_grotto <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2011 8:48 pm Subject: [greater_houston_grotto] the web-page Please take these comments as comments and not as criticism. This is NOT something to be addressed this week, but maybe someday. I just took a look a the web page for the first time in over 2 years. TSA is written "Texas Speleological Society" in 2 places on the link for new cavers. Also the Texas Speleological Survey ( TSS ) is another important organization that is sort of its own entity. http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/tsswho.htm They have bi-monthy work meetings to organize maps and scan stuff. I have been wanting to get involved in that for years, but just couldn't make it. Also, on the main 1st sentence introducing the grotto, there seems to be word left off as in "Just ask us," Also, One link mentions several commercial caves, but doesn't mention the one owned by our very own good friend and grotto ambassador to the American Cave Owner's Association. That being Thomas Summer's, "Cave Without a Name." It is an incredible privilege to be in a grotto that has not only a real cave owner, but one who actively supports the grotto and owns one of the most awesome caves in the U.S. Most of you haven't been around long enough to realize how much Tom has done for GHG. The caving vendor list does not mention http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.php?p=home or http://www.karstsports.com/ In the section where you have Bat Sanctuary, I would instead put http://www.texascaves.org/ And have a separate section for bats, as there are dozens of bat related organizations and sites to visit, including our very own Waugh Bridge. Every grotto does things differently, most of the other grottos eat at the same exact place before the meeting and have so for many years. There isn't a mention on the web-page about a social gathering outside of the meeting. I really don't know where the other grottos find time to be so social. The U.T. Grotto spends about 6 hours a month just drinking together, and talking about whatever the heck they want to. The web-page need more photos and some that when you click on them, can go to full screen. Members of GHG have taken 1,000's of caving photos. I have some buried in a storage box, taken with an Instamatic film camera, so they are not worth showing. Eddie Yonemoto should have some photos. I have offered my photo of the cave in Cockrell Butterfly center numerous times, but each time I get that look, where people roll their eyes. I don't know why there is so much resistance to Facebook, but many of the other grottos in Texas have a successful Facebook page. There is no mention on the web-site about anything Facebook related. Most of the caving activity in Texas is going on on Facebook. Also, YouTube has an extensive vault of thousands of informative caving videos. That could be mentioned to a newbie looking for info. The drab green color of the web-pages is something that could be addressed someday. I see the club has a formal requirement to be 16 years of age. I don't remember that getting passed. I can name 4 GHG'rs that were under 16, that own caving records, and won TSA contest. I can't tell you when GHG decided it was necessary to have a membership form or require college age members or those old enough to go to war, to get their mommies written permission to join GHG. If I was 20, and saw that I would tell GHG to go *$%*@&^$. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) RECENT ACTIVITY: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___
