texascavers Digest 8 Aug 2011 16:30:09 -0000 Issue 1363 Topics (messages 18304 through 18310):
Squire Lewis
18304 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
Re: where a man can breathe free
18305 by: Don Cooper
PBSS August meeting
18306 by: J. LaRue Thomas
Bexar Grotto meeting for 8/8/11
18307 by: Tom Florer
Re: where a man can breathe free, and relevance to caves
18308 by: Mark Minton
Re: book review: Lew Bicking
18309 by: Mark Minton
18310 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
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--- Begin Message ---“Squire and I were not friends. Nodding acquaintances is about as close as we got.” Carl, I could say the same, in fact it almost came to fisticuffs! But I must take issue with your statement that 1966 was a time before the hippies with long hair and beads, as that was the root of my problem with Squire. In 1966, the year of my high school graduation, I was well on my way to becoming a full fledged hippie, though my hair had yet to grow into the glorious afro that later became my badge of honor. In circa 1967 or so I happened to be at the PSC Fieldhouse in Germany valley WestbygawdVirginia. Squire showed up with Bob Thrun (Thren?) and took great exception to my presumption of looking like a hippie, calling me a fake little punk who had no right to have long hair or to smoke dope. (At that time I believe his hair was short?) He considered himself to be a real life Jack Kerouac who could tell stories of Mexico whereas I was a suburban poseur. That was OK, but then he decided to throw me out of the fieldhouse which led to a near violent standoff. Eventually he relented. I didn’t see him again until quite a few years later. When I did he had been transformed into a crotchety old man whereas I was in the prime of my hippiehood and I too had stories of adventure to tell from Mexico. I said, “How you doing old man?” and he shook my hand. He may have been a jerk but I have to admit that I cherish his memory! Sleaze ps: Where can a fellow get hold of that book?
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--- Begin Message ---I noticed, perhaps it was on the Discover Channel, a TV show called "Swamp Loggers". It's a reality documentary with added incidental soundtrack in the likes of "Dangerous Catch"... Real Heavy Equipment Excitement! Sickening, really. Clear cut the swamp! Ya Hoo! -WaV On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:49 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > In a message dated 8/5/2011 4:12:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > If all the people fretting over the numerous environmental and social > problems resulting from overpopulation were to focus instead on the primary > underlying cause, we might reverse this trend and see real progress towards > long range solutions and improving quality of life for future generations > > > Amen! Here in Hogtown the living is still easy, the moss hangs from the > live oaks and all is well until the Students return. Gainesville is the > Austin of Florida, but the big difference is that there are damned near two > million Texacans in Austin but only about 250,000 gators in the Hogtown > metro area. The reason for that is that we don't want no stinking jobs or > new businesses unless they are directly related to University of Florida > biotech spinoffs. As soon as they become successful they move to Austin > taking the redundant grad students with them. We make it a point to screw > every developer who sticks his head out of a hole. We often lose, but we > still cost the developers millions every time they try. We don't want no > stinking roads either. The bad news is the dawning of the age of biomass. It > seems we have way too many trees, so the plan is to burn them in place of > coal. After they cut down all the trees maybe I'll move to Detroit. I hear > there are wide open spaces out there where a man can breathe free. > > Sleaze >
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--- Begin Message --- Attention all cave-type people! (Especially those of you who are in the "west")Permian Basin Speleological Society is meeting Tuesday August 9th at 7:00 p.m. at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, Texas. We have a report from the Glenwood Springs Convention and some upcoming trips to work on, including Amazing Maze the weekend of August 20th.Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back room.Any and all are welcome! For further infomation about the Permian Basin Speleological Society contact: Jacqui Thomas [email protected], or Bill Bentley [email protected], or Patrick Ray [email protected]PBSS web page: http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society. National Speleological Society web page: http://www.caves.org/ Texas Speleological Association web page: http://www.cavetexas.org Southwestern Region of the NSS web page: http://www.caves.org/region/swr/
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--- Begin Message ---Hola todos, Kurt Menking and BT Price will present a program on the continuing wonderment being found in Twinkies Palace Cave (formerly Benders Cave) at the Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, August 8th. A variety of bones from ages past have been (and continue to be) found in this cave. A good time is sure to be had by all in attendance. The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month, at Chester's Hamburgers located on the NW corner of Thousand Oaks Drive and US 281. -Tom
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--- Begin Message ---At 10:06 AM 8/6/2011, Geary Schindel wrote:Couple of interesting facts from the video. Bartlett talks about the rule of 70 for doubling of exponential growth (any growth over zero). That is, take the yearly growth rate of a city, say San Antonio at approximately 2.8 percent and divide that in to 70 and you get the doubling rate. That is, in 25 years, the San Antonio area will double its population to around 4 million people.A useful way to look at this type of population growth is to consider a bucket of bacteria that doubles in whatever time span. Up until the bucket is half full they can look around and say there's no problem; we have plenty of room. Then all of a sudden the bucket goes from half to completely full in one generation. It can happen before you know it.I believe that we have way too many people on the planet and anything we can do to eliminate some of the dummies, I'm all for. That is why I'm opposed to mandatory seat belt laws, child car seats, texting bans, and helmet laws. If you aren't smart enough to do these things out of common sense, you probably shouldn't be reproducing.The trouble with some of that logic, like texting bans, is that the perpetrator can easily survive the accident while the innocent bystander who gets crashed into may die. There's no protective logic in that one.Mark Minton Please reply to [email protected]Permanent email address is [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---At 10:32 AM 8/6/2011, Mixon Bill wrote:My favorite summing up was written by Squire Lewis on encountering Bicking in Mexico after the 1966 convention: "Lew's only traveling and survival equipment consists of a small Kelty pack whose sole contents are the largest Spanish dictionary every printed--about a 20-pounder--and a box of Mexican crackers. . . . His only clothes are those he wears,and he obviously has some warped goal of not taking them off--ever-- for washing or any other purpose. . . . He has gotten all the long wayfrom Baltimore to California to [Mexico City] with nothing but his great dictionary and his crackers. We have never seen him spend any money--not any--he may well not have any.That reminds me of a statement attributed, I believe, to a governor of Florida. In reference to hikers or whomever coming to visit being good for the economy, he said something like, "They come with only one pair of underwear and a five-dollar bill and don't change either."Mark Minton Please reply to [email protected]Permanent email address is [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---Fla. Guvs. SKINK = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_TyreeTyree was Governor of Florida in the 1970s. He was everything desirable in a candidate: a native of Florida, a college football star, and a decorated Vietnam veteran. He was dazzlingly handsome, charismatic, and articulate. He was also a former English professor at the University of Florida, though politically most people saw this as a handicap rather than an asset.
To the surprise of the Florida establishment, he was also one of the few, if not the only, honest men to hold the office. After he turned down a bribe from real estate developers, the developers assumed he was holding out for more money, and came back offering a larger bribe, along with a foolproof scheme for concealing the money. To their astonishment, the governor not only refused again, but had them arrested in an F.B.I. sting.
Tyree was also vehemently opposed to runaway growth in Florida, and gained national recognition for his passionate speeches and legislative proposals to discourage tourism, curtail land development, and protect the environment. (For example, one of his proposed laws would have required any boat driver who killed a manatee to immediately forfeit his boat, pay a $10,000 fine or go to jail for forty-five days, and bury the dead animal himself at a public ceremony).
Appalled, a group of Florida special interests pooled their resources to neutralize the governor politically, by bribing majorities in the state cabinet and the legislature to ignore or reject all of his initiatives.
Years later, the executive assistant to the current governor reviews Tyree’s history, and marvels at the futility of his struggle:
As popular as Clinton Tyree had been with the common folk of Florida, he stood no chance – none whatsoever – of disabling the machinery of greed and converting the legislature into a body of foresight and honest ethics. It was boggling to think a sane person would even try.
On the same day that the crooked developers who had tried to bribe Tyree were convicted, but punished with nothing more than probation, the legislature voted unanimously (except for the governor) to sell the original wildlife preserve that they’d been after to another developer. On that day, Tyree quit and disappeared from the Governor's mansion. At first, Tyree was believed kidnapped, until a notarized letter of resignation was sent to the Capitol and verified by the FBI.
He became a wild hermit, living first in Harney County (a fictional Florida county), where he adopted the name "Skink,” and was simply viewed as an eccentric, albeit a potentially violent one.
Over the years, he makes infrequent appearances over South Florida, becoming something of an urban legend.
At 10:32 AM 8/6/2011, Mixon Bill wrote:
>My favorite
>summing up was written by Squire Lewis on encountering Bicking in
>Mexico after the 1966 convention: "Lew's only traveling and survival
>equipment consists of a small Kelty pack whose sole contents are the
>largest Spanish dictionary every printed--about a 20-pounder--and a
>box of Mexican crackers. . . . His only clothes are those he wears,
>and he obviously has some warped goal of not taking them off--ever--
>for washing or any other purpose. . . . He has gotten all the long way
>from Baltimore to California to [Mexico City] with nothing but his
>great dictionary and his crackers. We have never seen him spend any
>money--not any--he may well not have any.
That reminds me of a statement attributed, I believe, to a
governor of Florida. In reference to hikers or whomever coming to
visit being good for the economy, he said something like, "They come
with only one pair of underwear and a five-dollar bill and don't
change either."
Mark Minton
Please reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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