texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 -0000 Issue 1379
Topics (messages 18460 through 18466):
earth science related
18460 by: David
YouTube related
18461 by: David
video of push trip
18462 by: David
Re: new Texas law
18463 by: Chris Vreeland
18464 by: Bill Bentley
fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere
18465 by: Gill Edigar
a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related
18466 by: Nigel Dyson-Hudson
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There is a proposed project in the works for a museum-like theme park in Texas:
http://www.earthquestinstitute.org/
The location is about 20 miles northeast of Houston.
I doubt it will ever get built, but it sounds like a promising
project, and one that
maybe a caver could find a place to fit in at.
David Locklear
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Does your grotto have a YouTube Video ?
Check this one out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bNfqWKvAg
That is from 2 years ago.
That was all I could find on my initial search, but I was only
checking English sites, meaning there could be a better example
in another language.
So UCET has set the bar for what such a video should entail.
Another interesting video I stumbled onto is below:
Skip to 5:13 if you don't want to watch the caver swim thru the
sumps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkkHh9OEz0&NR=1
I don't ever plan to take up cave-diving, but I would like to learn
how to negotiate an 11 meter long sump, someday. Swildon's Pot looks
like a really fun cave.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swildon's_Hole
David Locklear
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Below is a very interesting video of some hard-core cavers determined to
push a lead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZz1OAC4V0g
Note this was posted 8 months ago, so there may be some news since then
about this lead.
David Locklear
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I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social
Media," per se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online?
The NSS forums seem pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any
Texans posting there. I was a member of the UT Grotto (I think?)
Facebook Group for a while, but quit it after a while when I got sick
of the notifications. None of them seemed particularly caving-related,
either. So. Serious question. What am I missing that's Texas Caving-
specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT Grotto
Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really
where all the action is.
Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:
A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a
bit like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising
keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist
is to sell you stuff, even if you’ve never bought anything off of
there.
Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get
bombarded with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles
and miscellaneous (supposed) caving events to attend ;-)
--Stefan
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Chris,
The campfire on cave trips?, which is currently substituted for a lantern
since 99% of Texas is under a burn ban.
I use and get mail from all the mailing lists that I can sign up for, I also
provide a mailing list for the USA and all of the individual states as well as
several specific caving areas. ... I also use facebook... I created a group
page there for our grotto and let it run for a while and when I went back to it
for something, I discovered that since I left it wide open for membership it
has several spam messages on it, I deleted them and the offending members and
now it is a closed group. rarely does anyone use it for any PBSS related
communicating.
I am signed up for the NSS Cave Chat and NSS forums but I tended to lose
interest after a while. I found it kind of cumbersome to navigate and the folks
that I wanted to chat with or knew were not on there and wouldn't sign up fro
what ever reason.
Locklear is always trying out new social media places and is always trying to
get everyone to switch over, I won't do that because I find that until it
catches on like facebook has done, you will be alone with a few others and not
most of the cavers you really needed to chat or link up with.
All in all our grotto uses the PBSS mailing list as a primary means of
communicating. Others are just individual emails.
There are pros and cons to all of them. I say use all you can tolerate and
stick with them, sure there is no cave related drivel that goes on, usually it
don't last long because someone usually hollers enough is enough and it gets
quiet for a while...
My advice is that I wouldn't limit myself to just one source.
http://www.caver.net/mail.html (my cave related email lists)
Bill
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From: Chris Vreeland
To: texas cavers
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law
I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social Media," per
se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online? The NSS forums seem
pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any Texans posting there. I was a
member of the UT Grotto (I think?) Facebook Group for a while, but quit it
after a while when I got sick of the notifications. None of them seemed
particularly caving-related, either. So. Serious question. What am I missing
that's Texas Caving-specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT
Grotto Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really
where all the action is.
Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:
A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a bit
like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what
you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even
if you’ve never bought anything off of there.
Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get bombarded
with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles and miscellaneous
(supposed) caving events to attend ;-)
--Stefan
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ATTENTION CAVERS in the Austin area. I just got a text message from Jim
Strickland requesting cavers to help fight fires now approaching Flat
Creek Ranch.
The ranch is located just east of Pedernales Falls State Park. There should
be a gathering place at Ranch Headquarters just inside the entry gate. Bring
shovels, rakes, hoes, chainsaws & fuel, gloves, and water for drinking.
Please pass the word and show up if you can.
If you are in Wimberley area Ernie and Terry and Don and Andy and others
might need help, as well, getting brush cut away from the houses and
buildings. Give Terry a call at 512-466-4319. Ernie is out of town. All of Hays
County is like a bucket of gasoline.
--Ediger
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Dave,
You forgot to mention that this is a real 4x4 - it has a snorkel, the air
intake is above the roof line. I wonder if there is a snorkel for the driver?
Or would they have a cave diver driving it through the really deep water?
The only other time I have seen a 4x4 with a snorkel was around 2002 in
Syracuse NY near LeMoyne College and it had Venezuela plates on it.
Now if you really wanted to stir the pot, just suggest that NCRC and the
various NCRC regions put in for vehicle grants. grin, duck, RUN!
Nigel
> How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue
> vehicle ?
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