*1-A:10-BC Fire Extinguishers* (dry chemical) are $17 at Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart, Academy, etc, etc. http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?R=100015934&N=5yc1vZbmgp&catalogId=10053&storeId=10051&langId=-1
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Rod Goke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gill has requested that people bring dry chemical fire extinguishers to > TCR. That's a good idea, but it's important to understand that not all dry > chemical fire extinguishers are the same and that some types are not > considered to be effective against the types of fires most likely to be > encountered in a natural outdoor environment, such as Flat Creek Ranch. I'm > no expert in fire fighting, but based on what I've read, you need a > fire extinguisher with a rating that includes class A when the burning > material is wood, grass, paper, cardboard, etc. Some dry chemical fire > extinguishers are rated ABC and, hence, are supposed to be effective against > class A fires (in addition to classes B and C). Other dry chemical fire > extinguishers are only rated BC and, hence, are not considered effective > against class A fires. I'm not sure what would happen if you used a class BC > fire extinguisher on a class A fire, but it might have more of a tendency to > fan the flames than to put out the fire. Class BC fire extinguishers are > intended primarily for use on fires involving flammable liquids and/or > electrical fires. Water, of course, is an effective alternative for fighting > class A fires, but not class B (flammable liquid) or class C (electrical) > fires. > > A lot of information about fire extinguishers is available on the Internet. > Here is one easy to read article summarizing the basics: > > http://www.fire-extinguisher101.com/ > > Different kinds of dry chemical fire extinguishers contain different kinds > of chemicals, which can involve different hazards. Here is one article I > found summarizing these potential hazards and precautions: > > > http://www.ehow.com/about_5443724_chemical-dangers-fire-extinguisher.html > > As tempting as it might be to extinguish the cigarettes of inconsiderate > smokers ;-), it's best to avoid discharging a dry chemical fire > extinguisher in a way that would get into anyone's eyes, nose, or mouth. > Accordingly, when using one of these extinguishers on a fire, it's probably > best to do so from the upwind side, if possible, to avoid having the > chemicals, smoke, and debris blow back into your own face. From what I've > read, the chemicals used in ABC fire extinguishers tend to be more hazardous > than those used in BC extinguishers, but I don't claim to be any expert on > this. > > As I said before, I'm no expert on fire fighting or fire extinguishers, so > if any of you have had training in this area, I invite you to correct > anything I might have said wrong and to provide your own advice. I just > think that if everyone is being encouraged to bring fire extinguishers to > TCR, then it also would be good for people to learn a few basics about how > to use them and about what kinds of extinguishers are appropriate for what > kinds of fires. > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gill Edigar > Sent: Sep 12, 2011 2:07 PM > To: Julia Germany > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR and smoking > > I've just returned from a meeting at Flat Creek Ranch and the word was > definitely: NO CIGARETTE BUTTS ON THE GROUND. Everybody knows how to "Field > Strip" a cigarette butt--that makes sure it is "dead out" and doesn't leave > an ugly butt on the ground. Please tend to it. > > Also, please remember to get a dry chemical fire extinguisher for your car > and take it with you to TCR. Two would be even nicer. They are $17 at > Lowes, > Home Depot, WalMart, Academy, etc, etc. > --Ediger > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Julia Germany wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > For those who didn't read Rod Goke's comments about smoking at TCR, > here's > > one more reason not to smoke at TCR - until the bans are lifted, it's > > illegal to smoke in Austin parks and other public spaces, and illegal to > > cook with charcoal grills. Since Flat Creek is close to Austin, I would > bet > > that the owners of the ranch would appreciate the same respect. (For > those > > of us who need safety breaks, I would recommend doing so inside your > > vehicle.) > > > > Here's a notice that just appeared about no smoking at the ACL fest this > > weekend: > > > > No Smoking Allowed at ACL Fest > > Updated: Monday, 12 Sep 2011, 11:57 AM CDT > > Published : Monday, 12 Sep 2011, 11:16 AM CDT > > > > Due to a burn ban that is still in effect for all Austin parks and > > greenbelts, smoking will be prohibited at Austin City Limits Festival > this > > year. > > > > "Following the tragic losses Central Texas has experienced in the last > few > > weeks as a result of widespread fires, we trust that park-goers will > respect > > this burn ban and work with us to keep our citizens and our community > safe. > > Please keep our parks smoke- and fire-free," said Austin Parks and > > Recreation Department Director Sara Hensley. > > > > "We hope music fans attending ACL will also keep in mind the safety of > > residents in neighborhoods surrounding Zilker Park by not littering > > cigarette butts in front of homes and businesses." > > > > The city enacted the ban in April due to the extreme drought that is > > affecting Central Texas. The ban prohibits smoking as well as wood and > > charcoal grilling. The ban applies to all city parks including Zilker > Park > > where ACL Fest will take place. > > Park Police and Park Rangers will be enforcing the no smoking ban during > > the festival by asking smokers to stop. If they do not comply, they will > be > > required to leave the park. > > > > However, city officials insist that Park Police will be as customer > > friendly as possible. > > > > The Austin City Limits Festival begins on Friday and runs through Sunday. > > > > Read more: > > > http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/No-Smoking-Allowed-at-ACL-Fest-20110912-ktbcw#ixzz1Xl85RJ1T > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected]
