Amen brother Gill

El martes, 18 de junio de 2013, Gill Edigar escribió:

> Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a
> mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave
> go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky
> Mexican-type natural progression from a totally wild, ask nobody for
> permission, do whatever you want wherever you want to do it, sort of cave
> to a gated tourist attraction with an artificial entrance tunnel. In the
> early days we had to follow a burro trail across the thorn infested desert
> to get there; today there's a road that more closely resembles the main
> runway of an international airport. Cavers have helped with some of the
> intermediate steps of the progress and enhanced goodwill with those
> responsible for the welfare of the cave. But otherwise US cavers (with a
> couple of notable exceptions) have been of little importance in the overall
> development of the cave, including the cleanup and restoration work done by
> the TSA Projects held there in the last few years of the '90s. Their
> commercialization efforts would have gone on without us. We were just an
> adjunct to everything else. It is my general opinion that the situation and
> development at Gruta del Palmito would have taken place pretty  much
> exactly the way it did if cavers would never had lifted a hand otherwise.
> We have not been betrayed despite our efforts in Palmito any more than
> cavers have been betrayed by the commercialization of, say, Caverns of
> Sonora.  A few Texans served with technical advice but the overall scheme
> of things was basically a local effort. Cavers can still get off-trail
> access through prior arrangement.
> --Ediger
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Louise Power 
> <power_lou...@hotmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 
> 'power_lou...@hotmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Mimi,
>>
>> I remember one of my first trips down there. I think Orion was the trip
>> leader, but I'm not sure who else was there. We had just started down from
>> the entrance on the breakdown slope when way off in the distance we kept
>> hearing somebody calling "Luz," "Luz". So we all shown our lights downhill
>> toward the cries and saw 3 or 4 of the local guys crawling around down
>> below with no light trying to figure their way out. I can't remember how
>> long they said they'd been in the dark, but it had been quite awhile (or
>> maybe it just seemed that way). We loaned them a couple of our extra
>> flashlights and they trotted off toward the entrance.
>>
>> Good practical reinforcement of one of the first rules of caving for me
>> for me on one of my first "big cave" trips--never go without 3 independent
>> sources of light.
>>
>> Of course, mine didn't have the lasting exitement yours did.
>>
>> Louise
>>
>> > From: mjca...@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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>> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:32:46 -0500
>> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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>> > Subject: [Texascavers] Remembering
>> >
>> > 40 years ago right about now sitting in the border crossing building on
>> my first trip to Mexico, first cave trip, first camping trip. Destination -
>> Gruta del Palmito. Met my own future cave man on that trip, and have never
>> stopped wanting to go underground. Don't think anyone ever wrote up that
>> trip, either.
>> >
>> > Time flies when you're having fun:)
>> >
>> > Mimi Jasek
>> >
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