texascavers Digest 25 Jun 2013 04:16:50 -0000 Issue 1784
Topics (messages 22052 through 22059):
KIWI SINK Report--Saturday
22052 by: Gill Edigar
Re: [Mocaves] Fw: Industrial pig farming near Buffalo National River? We can't
let this stand.
22053 by: caverarch
Re: Suburbans
22054 by: Fritz Holt
KIWI SINK Dig Report
22055 by: Gill Edigar
Webinar Invitation, Alpine Karst In Utah, Presenter; Larry Spangler
22056 by: Geary Schindel
Re: Kiwi Sink report
22057 by: David
never wet
22058 by: Nico Escamilla
Re: a place to camp near Kiwi
22059 by: David
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KIWI SINK Report--I just reminded myself that there was action at KIWI SINK
today (22 June 2013). Due to David Locklear's recent digging enthusiasm
5-1/2 barrels of muck had to be hoisted out of Kiwi Sink before the digging
begins tomorrow (Sunday). Ernie Garza, Terry Raines, David Locklear, and I
convened at the pit and hauled out 6 full barrels, the 1/2 having been
rapidly topped off with a few handy rocks. In addition, 2 XL rocks were
wrenched from their cradles and winched to the surface. There was much
rejoicing. More than a half-dozen rocks remain to be dealt with, posthaste.
One of the rocks we removed gave ready access to the nether regions of the
cave, once accessible only by a narrow vertical squeeze. Andy Gluesenkamp
and Ruby came by to inspect the progress of the work. The next scheduled
dig is tomorrow. Come to dig or just to visit. Info: 410-303-1177
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From: "Emily Jones, NPCA" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: Industrial pig farming near Buffalo National River? We can't let this
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Dear S.,
Please take a moment today to help us keep the Buffalo National River clean and
free of factory farming waste.
One of Cargill’s meat suppliers recently built a confined animal feeding
operation (CAFO), designed to hold 6,500 pigs and produce more than 2 million
gallons of manure, litter, and wastewater annually, just six miles from Buffalo
National River, a national park site in the Ozarks of northern Arkansas.
This facility, the C&H Hog Farm, Inc., could seriously compromise the quality
of the water and the vibrant recreational economy around the river. Because of
the danger of flooding and waste runoff, we are asking Cargill to work with the
owner to move this CAFO to a more appropriate site away from the Buffalo
National River watershed. Fortunately, there are other, more appropriate places
for an industrial facility of this size--we have no excuse to keep a polluting
CAFO near such nationally important waters.
Can you take just a minute to help keep the Buffalo National River pristine?
Send a letter to Cargill's CEO!
Thank you for all you do to protect our national rivers.
Emily Jones, Senior Program Manager
Southeast Regional Office
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I know cavers swear by Toyotas but make mine a gas gobbling Ford. No, not Fix
Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead.
Old geezer who likes Fords. I'm tying the knot August 11 as old folks (1935)
need love too.
Fritz
Sent from my iPhone in beautiful Dripping Springs, my hill country paradise
On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Mixon Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> I owned serial Suburbans back in the day, starting back when they were
> actually trucks and not all tricked out like rolling whorehouses with
> headliners and the like. There was actually metal on the interior that you
> could screw stuff to. My first one had only three doors, two on the curb side
> and one for the driver--not counting the tailgate, of course. The second seat
> was optional back then, and had to be unbolted to be removed. My experience
> with them has made me swear to never buy anything from GM again, and I
> haven't. Mostly nuisances like broken door handles, failed light switches,
> snapped speedometer cables, leaky driveline seals, etc. etc. etc. An
> engine-mount bolt fell out up in the Purificación cave area in Mexico. When a
> fuel pump failed on one of them, a dealer fixed it but returned the truck to
> me with the sparkplug wires mixed up. (Not clear why they were even removed.)
> The last straw was when my last one had a total ignition failure on the way
> home from a Sunday swim two days before I had to leave for an NSS convention
> somewhere in the NW. Then on the way home the fuel pump on that one went out,
> too. I suppose some people think things like that just add spice to a trip. I
> kept none of them beyond ~ 130K miles. "Your mileage may vary." -- Mixon
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KIWI SINK Dig Report--Sunday, 23 June 2013--Six whole people showed up
today. We managed to fill and empty 4 barrels before lunch and then another
4 afterward--plus whatever David Locklear managed to get filled after we
left sometime after 4. He's camped out in Terry Raines' cow
pasture--digging in Kiwi when not planning his next adventure. There were
also 2 M rocks hoisted in the morning. A 20x30-foot tarp was rigged over
the pit to rot in the UV-radiation of the sun. Lowering of the floor along
the east wall continued to the point that we could see several meters down
into a previously known room. Much of the floor mud had been removed when I
left but David was hacking away as a man possessed, opening up voids with
nearly every bucket loaded.
Diggers on hand included:
Don Broussard
Gill Ediger
Ernie Garza
David Locklear
Guin McDaid
Ron Rutherford
Visitors comprised:
Most of the Andy Gluesenkamp and Jubal Grubb families.
Kiwi took a lamp and explored some way down into the pit.
The totals were:
8 totally loaded barrels
2 medium sized rocks
At least 4 large rocks are strapped up on the floor of the sink and 6 or
8 smaller ones remain to be strapped up and hoisted; some will go up as
multiples.
The next scheduled dig will be 7 July 2013.
--Ediger
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Folks,
I thought you might like to see this link to register for a Webinar scheduled
for Thursday, June 27th at 8 p.m. CDT.
The webinar will be presented by Larry Spangler, a groundwater hydrologist with
the U.S.G.S in the Salt Lake City office. Larry has performed some of the
deepest tracer tests in the United States and defined groundwater basins in
high gradient alpine karst settings. Larry is also an excellent presenter.
Hope you can join the webinar.
Geary Schindel
From: D. Spoons [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:04 AM
To: David Spoons
Subject: Webinar Invitation, Alpine Karst In Utah, Presenter; Larry Spangler
Please join us for this incredible webinar by our own Larry Spangler. He has
great information and beautiful pictures that you will want to see!
Please register today and arrive at least 10 minutes early to get your seat for
the webinar. Please help us to get this informaiton out to others by forwarding
this invitation to others.
Cave Safely
Debbie Spoons
NSS CaveNet Webinar Chair
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ALPINE KARST IN UTAH – AN OVERVIEW Presenter: Larry Spangler
Join us for a Webinar on June 27
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Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/787497383
Utah is famous for its magnificent National Parks, canyon country, and one of
the largest saline lakes in the world, but one generally doesn’t associate Utah
with caves.
Although Utah is not known for extensive cave systems or even great numbers of
caves, it does contain a considerable amount of carbonate-rock terrain and some
of the best-developed alpine karst anywhere in the western U.S.
Main Drain, at 1,227 feet deep, and Ricks Spring, one of the biggest underwater
cave discoveries in the western U.S., sinkholes as much as 1,000 feet across
and 100 feet deep. These are just a few of the interesting items that Larry
will discuss.
Larry has worked as a Groundwater Hydrologist with the U.S. Geological Survey
since 1988. He also has been an instructor in karst hydrology/geomorphology in
the "Speleology for Cavers" short course at NSS Conventions for many years.
This will be a very interesting webinar with great information and pictures of
Utah's alpine caves and karst.
Please arrive early space is limited. All webinars are recorded and stored on
the NSS website http://www.caves.org/ These webinars are available for viewing
or downloading. We encourage Grottos to use the webinars for your meetings.
Title:
ALPINE KARST IN UTAH – AN OVERVIEW Presenter: Larry Spangler
Date:
Thursday, June 27, 2013
Time:
8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CDT(Which is 9 pm EDT / 7 pm MDT / 6 pm PDT) Please check
your time zone for correct time.
After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information
about joining the Webinar.
System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server
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Required: Mac OS® X 10.6 or newer
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Required: iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ phone or Android tablet
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I was not one of the "whole" persons. I was not even operating at 80%,
but I tried to pace myself and drink plenty of fluids. My cotton overalls
where just to hot, and my heavy-duty construction boots were like lead
weights to a scuba diver. Leather gloves were just too hot. I did not
have the umphf to operate the breaker bar, but I was fine in one spot, as
long as I didn't have to climb around.
Everybody dug super-hard, some barely breaking a sweat.
I stopped diggin as soon as Gill left. But I did confirm that all of the
first room passage is now in the twilight zone. Tiny bits of light are
shining very near the presumed digging leads.
I gave Kiwi an official bottle of NaturFest wine from a Brenham winery,
Pleasant Hill.
The main reason, I have been enthusiastic about this dig is that it
sometimes fits into my work schedule, and is the closest cave to Arcola,
that I have access to.
To be continued ...
David Locklear
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the super hydrophobic treatment that was discussed here a month or two ago
is now on the market under the rustoleum brand
link<http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/neverwet/neverwet-kit/>
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The Kiwi Base Camp, for cavers who are driving in from the far edges of
Texas.
https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/0/?ui=2&ik=71f4577f0b&view=att&th=13f74ce198b18cea&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P_HZIuLtDLeBlc_tuBzgWzd&sadet=1372133120909&sads=XIS0mhIxTTkWbIufwIvRciNVkbo
( photo enhanced by Roger Moore ), as I took the photo late in the evening
with my smartphone.
The map coordinates below should get you pretty close
30.056581,-98.00981
This is on the Raines property. I have not formally o.k.'d it with
them yet, but if they will
let me leave up the camp, and mother nature or the cows or animals don't
tear it up, then anybody is welcome to camp here if they can get the o.k.
from the Raines.
I could only drive my Honda Fit within about 150 feet of the camp, due to
some small cedar trees in the trail. The cows don't seem to use this
spot much, but I ran off one beautiful fox.
It is more fun to drive across Texas when you have a base-camp. If I
am not there, feel free to use my cot, my chairs & table or anything else
stored under the tarp.
David Locklear
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