texascavers Digest 30 Jun 2013 21:46:37 -0000 Issue 1786
Topics (messages 22068 through 22074):
Re: KIWI SINK
22068 by: caverarch
Not quiet Kiwi related
22069 by: David
The theme from "Batman" produced using bat sounds
22070 by: Diana Tomchick
my new gadget
22071 by: David
Re: [harness advice requested]
22072 by: David Ochel
Call for Abstracts: American Geophysical Union
22073 by: George Veni
Geological Society of America Karst Sessions: highlight on "125 Years
Underground: A Retrospective and Prospective of Cave and Karst Research"
22074 by: George Veni
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A stealth visit by David?
2 Barrels that mysteriously got filled since Sunday
Roger
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From: Gill Edigar <[email protected]>
To: Cavers Texas <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:29 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] KIWI SINK
KIWI SINK Update--Friday 28 June 2013--On account of there being several BIG
floor rocks (in particular) left uncovered and already strapped up for hoisting
we converged on the sink this morning and removed them.
Doing the duties were:
Gill Ediger
Ernie Garza
Guin McDaid
Terry Raines
Total resources eliminated: (6 lifts)
1 rock XL
3 rocks L
4 rocks S&M
2 Barrels that mysteriously got filled since Sunday
Thanks to all for helping. It was hot!
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Life has a funny way of working things out sometimes.
Had I known about the off-scheduled dig, I would have jumped in the car and
gone.
But instead I went to Lake Charles for the gran finale of my week-long
birthday celebration.
L'Auberge Casino gave me $ 850 from their slot machine. I managed to pull
myself out of their luring trap, while I still had about $ 700 of it left,
and managed to make it home with $ 600.
On a related note, I have a welder working on a new mining gadget, that
will come in handy someday, and on my way to pick it up right now.
David
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http://www.improbable.com/2013/06/20/the-batman-theme-produced-from-sounds-made-by-bats
Crank up the sound!
Diana
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This is a follow up to my last post.
The image below should be viewable to anybody.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwRwaM7IeSI5NmJ4cFJkS21ZZlE/edit?usp=sharing
This obviously resembles the barrels used in Kiwi Sink to haul out the fill
that the diggers have dug up.
What you see here is a steel drum that holds 9 gallons. On the bottom, I
added a steel plate,
and along the insides are a steel strap going up from that plate to each
chain connection.
The drum just holds in the dirt. The weight of the rocks are on the plate.
The steel straps are bolted to the drum only, and the bolt is welded shut.
The spreader bar above the barrel allows a large rock to protrude above the
lip of the barrel. Unfortunately,
that didn't get welded to the right chain-link, so I will have to
fix that later.
At the top, is a 5/8" dia. oval shaped ring large enough ( about 4 inches
across ) to attach extra things, that
weigh hundreds of pounds.
The basketball is just for scale to show a rock about the size of 3
basketballs could fit in the barrel.
The purpose of the barrel is to be multi-functional. After you load it
down as much as you can,
then you can attach 2 or 3 medium-sized rocks to the oval shaped ring above
and yank them all out in tandem.
This also gives the kids and the centenarians a barrel to fill. And it
can be placed in smaller
digging areas where a digger might be cramped for space such as deeper in
the cave.
It can also be used to safely lower newborns and infants and toddlers into
the lower part
of the cave ( just kidding ). But maybe tools
like hammer-drills, or sledge-hammers, or big chisels.
A plastic 5 gallon bucket will fit inside, so we can use it that way for
some
reason like to lower beverages and ice to restock the ice-chest, or a
first-aid
kit.
Also, if the winch is not available, material could be hauled out of the
cave with this
9 gallon drum using manual methods, as in some kind of
emergency situation.
I can't wait to throw a big rock in it.
David Locklear
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Hi,
I second the Amazonia. And no, currently nobody is importing them.
Cheers,
David
On 6/19/13 12:37 PM, Ed Goff wrote:
> The MTDE Amazonia is my favorite. Comfortable, fairly compact, rugged,
> and the lowest attachment point of any harness I've tried, which is
> great for frogging. I don't know if anybody's importing it these
> days--with international shipping and exchange rates it might not
> quite fit <$100. I think I got mine from starlessriver.com in the UK.
> I also used a GGG harness for a few years and liked it fine without a
> butt loop.
>
> Ed
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ron R <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I added leg padding and a padded/adjustable butt loop to my GGG harness, to
>> make the perfect harness for me.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't
>>> the harness come with them in the first place? Would seem like poor design
>>> to me...
>>>
>>> -S
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:27 AM
>>> To: GalenFalgout; TSA Cavers List
>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]
>>>
>>> I'll suggest the GGG, too.
>>>
>>> As for butt loops. I just used some 3 mm accessory cord. I ran the cord
>>> through the loop at the back of the waist strap and then tied off to each
>>> leg loop. That has worked for years--cheap, easy, and simple.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: GalenFalgout
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:59 AM
>>> To: Don Arburn ; TSA Cavers List
>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]
>>>
>>> I just paid 60 for my ggg. I just need to add some butt loops
>>>
>>> Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile
>>>
>>> Don Arburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't
>>>> bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers?
>>>>
>>>> Sent cellularly.
>>>> -Don
>
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Dear Friends,
During this year's American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco,
California, on 9-13 December, Jason Gulley, Matt Covington, and Corinne Wong
will host an important session that may interest you. The description of their
session is below. For more information and to submit an abstract (deadline is 6
August 2013), visit http://fallmeeting.agu.org/2013/.
Critical Zone Processes in Carbonates: Carbonate rocks cover 20% of Earth's
ice-free land and are modified by hydrological, biological and geochemical
processes in the critical zone. Congruent dissolution and high solubility of
carbonate rocks should lead to Critical Zone processes that are different than
those occurring in siliciclastic rocks, which are dominated by incongruent
weathering. Caves, an extreme endmember of critical zone processes in
carbonates, provide efficient pathways for oxygen and carbon into the
subsurface, resulting in complex subsurface chemical and gas gradients that do
not occur in siliciclastic systems. This session solicits abstracts dealing
hydrological, biological or geochemical processes operating in the carbonate
critical zone, broadly defined.
Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested.
Thank you,
George
********************
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
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Dear Friends,
The next Geological Society of America (GSA) Convention will be held this
Denver, Colorado on 27-30 October. Six topical sessions on caves and karst are
offered this year, all sponsored by the National Cave and Karst Research
Institute (NCKRI). Following is a special invitation asking you to consider
submitting abstracts to the session organized by NCKRI. Afterward is a summary
of the other sessions offered, followed by an announcement from GSA that
registration for the convention is now open and includes a link for submitting
abstracts. The abstract deadline is midnight, 6 August 2013, US Pacific Time.
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T58. 125 Years Underground: A Retrospective and Prospective of Cave and Karst
Research
GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI);
GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division;
GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division
George Veni, Lewis Land
Join us to celebrate GSA's 125th Anniversary! Appreciation, knowledge, and
understanding of cave and karst systems has changed dramatically since GSA's
creation and especially over the last 50 years. Once considered geologic
curiosities and delegated to the realm of explorers, not scientists, caves are
now widely recognized as important geological features and karst as a
distinctive and significant geologic terrain that covers about 20% of the
planet's land surface. Karst aquifers are the world's most productive yet
environmentally vulnerable groundwater systems, serving as the sole or primary
water supply for over 40 million Americans. Cave crystalline and sedimentary
deposits are becoming recognized as some of the richest and most diverse
sources of paleoclimatic and geoarcheological data. Cave fauna and
microorganisms are offering startling insights into geological processes while
pointing the way in finding extraterrestrial life. This session will highlight
the changes in the study and application of cave and karst systems since the
origin of GSA, with a focus on the past 50 years, and use it as a platform to
look ahead toward advancements on the horizon.
Three invited speakers will set the stage for this session. Dr. Derek Ford will
discuss how cave and karst science evolved during GSA's first 75 years, Dr.
William B. White will focus on progress over the past 50 years, and Dr.
Penelope Boston will offer a look forward at current trends and predictions on
the future frontiers in the field.
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Also offered at GSA Convention this year are the following sessions:
T59. Assessing Hazards and Groundwater Contamination in Karst
GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division;
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
Yongli Gao
Groundwater contamination and hazards such as sinkholes are the two most common
environmental concerns in karst lands. This session focuses on advancements in
technology and approaches for hazard assessment and contamination investigation
in karst areas.
T60. Caves as Deep Time Repositories of Geological, Biological, and
Anthropological Information
GSA Hydrogeology Division; Geochemical Society; GSA Archaeological Geology
Division; GSA Geobiology & Geomicrobiology Division; GSA Geology and Society
Division; GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Mineralogy, Geochemistry, Petrology, and
Volcanology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; GSA
Sedimentary Geology Division; Mineralogical Society of America; National Cave
and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); SEPM (Society for Sedimentary Geology)
Joshua M. Feinberg, E. Calvin Alexander Jr
Caves serve as deep time repositories of scientific information. This session
welcomes contributions utilizing cave deposits to create time series of
original data that capture information about the evolution of geologic,
biologic, and anthropological systems.
T61. Karst 2.0: Orogenies and Glaciers and Faulting-Oh My! The Impact of
Changing Geologic Conditions on Existing Karst Terrane and the New Tools and
Techniques We Have to Study It
GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; National Cave and Karst
Research Institute (NCKRI)
Cory W. Blackeagle
Once established, how does karst terrain change in response to subsequent
changes in its region's geologic setting? How are those changes from initial
conditions recognized? What cutting-edge technologies are being used in karst
research today?
T62. The Epikarst as a Boundary and Critical Zone
GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
Benjamin F. Schwartz, Madeline E. Schreiber
We welcome work on epikarst, including modeling, field studies, and novel
method developments, that advances our understanding of hydrobiogeochemical
processes, physical constraints, and environmental controls on epikarst
function as a surface-subsurface boundary and critical zone.
T63. Transport and Transformation of Non-Solute Materials in Karst Aquifers
GSA Hydrogeology Division; Karst Waters Institute; National Cave and Karst
Research Institute (NCKRI)
Ellen K. Herman, Michael Sinreich, Dorothy J. Vesper
This interdisciplinary session focuses on innovative studies and techniques
related to the transport and transformation of non-solute materials in karst
waters. We invite abstracts related to sediments, particulate-tracers,
contaminants (especially non-aqueous phase liquids), and biota.
T123. Geology in the National Parks: Research, Mapping, and Resource Management
GSA Geophysics Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
Bruce Heise, Jason P. Kenworthy, Timothy B. Connors
This session addresses the role of geoscience in the U.S. National Parks.
Presentations are invited on geologic research, geologic mapping, paleontology,
coastal geology, glacier studies, and resource management in U.S. National
Parks, Monuments, Seashores, and Historic Sites.
Of special note, NCKRI is joining many other friends to sponsor a special
Pardee Symposium:
P1. 125 Anniversary Pardee: 125 Years of Exploration and Geoscience with GSA
and the National Geographic Society: Celebrating the Rich History of
Geoscientist Explorers who have Broadened our Horizons and Knowledge of our
World
GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA History and Philosophy
of Geology Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division; Karst Waters Institute (KWI);
GSA Mineralogy, Geochemistry, Petrology, and Volcanology Division; National
Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); GSA Planetary Geology Division; GSA
Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; GSA Sedimentary Geology
Division; GSA Structural Geology and Tectonics Division
Cory W. Blackeagle; George Veni; Barbara EchoHawk
This session will showcase the intimate linkage between geology and exploration
both historically and currently. Speakers will represent scientists-explorers
and their contributions over the last 50 years, as well as today's
geoscientists who are pushing the frontiers of science and providing us with
new views of Planet Earth. Individual speakers will represent different arenas
of exploration and study: caves, mountains, oceans, polar regions, deserts,
plains and grasslands, jungles, and planetary geology.
Lastly, there is an effort by many karst scientists to create a Karst Division
in GSA. Registration to support this effort is happening through a GSA Karst
Interest Group discussion list. We currently have more than half the members
needed to form a division. To subscribe to the list and support creation of the
Karst Division, contact Cory Blackeagle at
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. He will e-mail you a personal
invitation that you'll need to join the list.
Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested.
George
********************
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>
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