Something that has been long and hard learned by myself is that sometimes
it's just better to keep my mouth shut. I now preach that short sermon to
members of Cavetex.
Say I, sometimes it would be better, for all parties involved, to just keep
your mouth shut.

Kindly,

GMcD



On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:45 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> It has been brought up that I am not "representative of cavers in general."
>
> I do NOT take offense by that, and what I am about to say is just my
> opinion.
>
>
> Mr. Minton is one of the top 10 cavers in the U.S., if not in the top
> 3.   I highly
> respect him and his opinions.
>
> There must be over 100,000 people in the U.S. who love caves and could
> make a constructive contribution to caves.     Only a tiny percentage of
> those
> are the so called "real cavers."    And only a handful of those want
> to participate
> in a listserve where they are bombarded with e-mails, especially when these
> e-mails are sometimes not of interest to their caving agendas.
>
> Many cavers, myself especially, have jobs and family issues that prevent us
> from being active in the organized caving community.    But these people
> can
> contribute when and if an opportunity arises.    It may only be once a
> year.
> But it is still a contribution.
>
> So I feel I am representative of the typical caver.
>
> What I am doing in east Texas is very important to caving.    There
> are 5 million
> people in southeast Texas, many of which have disposable incomes higher
> than
> other parts of the country.      The event I am hosting has enormous
> potential.
> I can't predict the future, but I see a great opportunity to reach out to
> people
> who are not willing to drive across Texas to go into a cave.    I don't
> mean to
> sound arrogant, but I feel that I am in a position to get the ball
> rolling on this
> event, which I can see becoming an annual tradition that cavers look
> forward
> to.    This isn't something I just invented.    I have been working on
> this off and on
> for 13 years.    Facebook has opened a giant window of opportunity to make
> this event meet its early potential.
>
>
> As for the TSA and its calendar, I see no mention of the big event this
> weekend.
> In fact, efforts by me to get the TSA to endorse the event as a valid
> caving related
> event were met with opposition.    And I could say the same thing about
> other
> so called legitimate caving organizations.     But that would not be
> in the spirit
> of caving.
>
> As for Facebook,
>
> There is an NSS caver that has lived walking distance from my house for
> nearly
> 8 years, and we live in a remote area far from Houston ( Arcola ).
> We have NEVER met.
> But we talk on Facebook nearly every day, like we were best friends.
>
>
> As for TSAANL,
>
> My notion to bring up the Activities Newsletter was mainly to point
> out that this
> "supplemental" print-out, could be done super-duper easy on Facebook.
> That
> is all I meant.
>
>
> And, on the response to Mr. Kennedy's post,
>
> I also have deep admiration for Jim and his incredible dedication to
> caving and bats.
> But if we had 100's of Jim Kennedy's in the world, what would we do
> with them.?    I think
> if we cloned 5 of them, we would have to ship them to other planets to
> gate caves.
>
> Keep up the good work, Jim.   I hope I get the privalege to go on one
> of your trips
> or projects someday.
>
>
> David Locklear
> President of NaturFest Association
> President of the Fort Bend County Speleological Association
>  ( a virtual Facebook grotto )
>
>
>
> P.S.       Show your TSA membership, and your NSS Card at NaturFest
> and get in FREE !
> And if you act now, by e-mailing them to me in the next 5 minutes in
> PDF format, you also
> get the life-time guaranteed Ginsu knife set.   But that is not all,
> first person gets a stainless-steel
> money-clip.
>
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-- 
~Gary McDaniel
  Grand Junction, CO

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