texascavers Digest 3 Apr 2011 19:14:43 -0000 Issue 1283

Topics (messages 17528 through 17542):

Risky visit to caves under sea ice
        17528 by: James McLane

San Antonio Road Work
        17529 by: Linda Palit
        17530 by: Don Arburn
        17531 by: Don Arburn

Restoration Field Camp, CCNP, June 26 - July 1
        17532 by: William Tucker
        17542 by: Mark Alman

Memorable Events in History on April 1st
        17533 by: Logan McNatt
        17534 by: Don Cooper
        17535 by: Stefan Creaser
        17536 by: Gill Edigar

Bat people on the moon
        17537 by: James McLane

TSA convention related
        17538 by: David
        17539 by: Diana Tomchick
        17540 by: Mallory Mayeux
        17541 by: Jim Kennedy

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0qGvC3vqaA&feature=player_embedded


                                          

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In SA, 1604 intersection with IH35 will be closed 9pm to morning Friday
night and Saturday night and Sunday night.  If you are coming south late,
avoid that intersection or expect slow detours.

 

Just heard the above on the radio and checked it on TxDot.  Seems to be a
place to avoid after 9pm tonight. 

Looking forward to seeing you at Spring Convention.


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Which 35 & 1604? There are two. South and east.


Don's iPhone.

On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Linda Palit <[email protected]> wrote:

> In SA, 1604 intersection with IH35 will be closed 9pm to morning Friday night 
> and Saturday night and Sunday night.  If you are coming south late, avoid 
> that intersection or expect slow detours.
> 
>  
> 
> Just heard the above on the radio and checked it on TxDot.  Seems to be a 
> place to avoid after 9pm tonight.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing you at Spring Convention.

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Ok, north and south.


Don's iPhone.

On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Don Arburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Which 35 & 1604? There are two. South and east.
> 
> 
> Don's iPhone.
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Linda Palit <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> In SA, 1604 intersection with IH35 will be closed 9pm to morning Friday 
>> night and Saturday night and Sunday night.  If you are coming south late, 
>> avoid that intersection or expect slow detours.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just heard the above on the radio and checked it on TxDot.  Seems to be a 
>> place to avoid after 9pm tonight.
>> 
>> Looking forward to seeing you at Spring Convention.
> 

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Restoration Field Camp
Carlsbad Caverns National Park
June 26 - July 1, 2011

This camp is open to anyone 18 years of age or older no matter their caving 
experience. It is a great opportunity for new cavers to learn about cave 
conservation, restoration and etiquette. They will receive instructions and 
guidance and we will be performing meaningful cave restoration projects at the 
Park all week. It is also a great camp for experienced cavers and 
restorationists, too.

We will be performing various cave restoration and conservation projects in the 
cave on behalf of Carlsbad Caverns and enjoying our off times together. We will 
be staying in the historic research huts just a short walk from the Natural 
Entrance. The evening bat flights visible from the porch are particularly 
grand. The cost of the camp is being kept to a minimum and the mood will be 
casual, friendly and fun.

The camp is being organized by William and Tammy Tucker on behalf of the Cave 
Research Foundation.

If you are interested, contact William Tucker ([email protected]) and you 
will be sent further details and an application. Camp space is limited and the 
deadline for contact is May 15.

Please distribute this message widely.

William Tucker

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FYI, y'all!

I'd go if I wasn't horseback riding in NM with a cute young blonde lady who 
happens to be my daughter!



Mark



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From: William Tucker <[email protected]>
To: New Mexico Cavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 12:15:16 PM
Subject: [SWR] Restoration Field Camp, CCNP, June 26 - July 1


Restoration Field Camp
Carlsbad Caverns National Park
June 26 - July 1, 2011
 
This camp is open to anyone 18 years of age or older no matter their caving 
experience. It is a great opportunity for new cavers to learn about cave 
conservation, restoration and etiquette. They will receive instructions and 
guidance and we will be performing meaningful cave restoration projects at the 
Park all week. It is also a great camp for experienced cavers and 
restorationists, too.
 
We will be performing various cave restoration and conservation projects in the 
cave on behalf of Carlsbad Caverns and enjoying our off times together. We will 
be staying in the historic research huts just a short walk from the Natural 
Entrance. The evening bat flights visible from the porch are particularly 
grand. 
The cost of the camp is being kept to a minimum and the mood will be casual, 
friendly and fun.
 
The camp is being organized by William and Tammy Tucker on behalf of the Cave 
Research Foundation.
 
If you are interested, contact William Tucker ([email protected]) and you 
will be sent further details and an application. Camp space is limited and the 
deadline for contact is May 15.
 
Please distribute this message widely.
 
William Tucker

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The following is from the Museum of Hoaxes Top 100 April Fool's Day Hoaxes of 
All Time.  No fooling!
Logan

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/

*#76: Great Cave Sell*
On one undetermined April 1 in the 1840s a story appeared in the /Boston Post/ announcing that a cave full of treasure had been discovered beneath Boston Common. It had supposedly been uncovered by workmen as they removed a tree from the Common. As the tree fell, it revealed a stone trap-door with a large iron ring set in it. Beneath the door was a stone stairway that led to an underground cave. In this cave lay piles of jewels, old coins, and weapons with jeweled handles. As word of the discovery spread throughout Boston, parties of excited curiosity-seekers began marching out across the Common to view the treasure. A witness later described the scene: "It was rainy, that 1st of April, the Legislature was in session, and it was an animated scene that the Common presented, roofed with umbrellas, sheltering pilgrims on their way to the new-found sell. A procession of grave legislators marched solemnly down under their green gingham, while philosophers, archaeologists, numismatists, antiquarians of all qualities, and the public generally paid tribute to the Post's ingenuity." Of course, the Common was empty of all jewel-bearing caverns, as the crowd of treasure seekers eventually discovered to its disappointment.



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No joking - according to my 2005 calendar - The First Descent of Golondrinas
was on April 2nd 1967.
Too bad they didn't do it a day earlier.

-Don C

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Logan McNatt <[email protected]> wrote:

>  The following is from the Museum of Hoaxes Top 100 April Fool's Day
> Hoaxes of All Time.  No fooling!
> Logan
>
> http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/
>
>  *#76: Great Cave Sell*
>  On one undetermined April 1 in the 1840s a story appeared in the *Boston
> Post* announcing that a cave full of treasure had been discovered beneath
> Boston Common. It had supposedly been uncovered by workmen as they removed a
> tree from the Common. As the tree fell, it revealed a stone trap-door with a
> large iron ring set in it. Beneath the door was a stone stairway that led to
> an underground cave. In this cave lay piles of jewels, old coins, and
> weapons with jeweled handles. As word of the discovery spread throughout
> Boston, parties of excited curiosity-seekers began marching out across the
> Common to view the treasure. A witness later described the scene: "It was
> rainy, that 1st of April, the Legislature was in session, and it was an
> animated scene that the Common presented, roofed with umbrellas, sheltering
> pilgrims on their way to the new-found sell. A procession of grave
> legislators marched solemnly down under their green gingham, while
> philosophers, archaeologists, numismatists, antiquarians of all qualities,
> and the public generally paid tribute to the Post's ingenuity." Of course,
> the Common was empty of all jewel-bearing caverns, as the crowd of treasure
> seekers eventually discovered to its disappointment.
>
>
>

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It was, but since we've had so many leap years since then the actual day has 
been muddled and sometimes people >think< it was actually 2nd April.

Cheers,
Stefan

From: Don Cooper [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Texascavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Memorable Events in History on April 1st

No joking - according to my 2005 calendar - The First Descent of Golondrinas 
was on April 2nd 1967.
Too bad they didn't do it a day earlier.

-Don C
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Logan McNatt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The following is from the Museum of Hoaxes Top 100 April Fool's Day Hoaxes of 
All Time.  No fooling!
Logan

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/
#76: Great Cave Sell
On one undetermined April 1 in the 1840s a story appeared in the Boston Post 
announcing that a cave full of treasure had been discovered beneath Boston 
Common. It had supposedly been uncovered by workmen as they removed a tree from 
the Common. As the tree fell, it revealed a stone trap-door with a large iron 
ring set in it. Beneath the door was a stone stairway that led to an 
underground cave. In this cave lay piles of jewels, old coins, and weapons with 
jeweled handles. As word of the discovery spread throughout Boston, parties of 
excited curiosity-seekers began marching out across the Common to view the 
treasure. A witness later described the scene: "It was rainy, that 1st of 
April, the Legislature was in session, and it was an animated scene that the 
Common presented, roofed with umbrellas, sheltering pilgrims on their way to 
the new-found sell. A procession of grave legislators marched solemnly down 
under their green gingham, while philosophers, archaeologists, numismatists, 
antiquarians of all qualities, and the public generally paid tribute to the 
Post's ingenuity." Of course, the Common was empty of all jewel-bearing 
caverns, as the crowd of treasure seekers eventually discovered to its 
disappointment.



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I always thought it was 1 April 1967. I dropped Golondrinas on 1 April 2
years later.
--Ediger

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Don Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:

> No joking - according to my 2005 calendar - The First Descent of
> Golondrinas was on April 2nd 1967.
> Too bad they didn't do it a day earlier.
>
> -Don C
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Logan McNatt <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  The following is from the Museum of Hoaxes Top 100 April Fool's Day
>> Hoaxes of All Time.  No fooling!
>> Logan
>>
>> http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/
>>
>>  *#76: Great Cave Sell*
>>  On one undetermined April 1 in the 1840s a story appeared in the *Boston
>> Post* announcing that a cave full of treasure had been discovered beneath
>> Boston Common. It had supposedly been uncovered by workmen as they removed a
>> tree from the Common. As the tree fell, it revealed a stone trap-door with a
>> large iron ring set in it. Beneath the door was a stone stairway that led to
>> an underground cave. In this cave lay piles of jewels, old coins, and
>> weapons with jeweled handles. As word of the discovery spread throughout
>> Boston, parties of excited curiosity-seekers began marching out across the
>> Common to view the treasure. A witness later described the scene: "It was
>> rainy, that 1st of April, the Legislature was in session, and it was an
>> animated scene that the Common presented, roofed with umbrellas, sheltering
>> pilgrims on their way to the new-found sell. A procession of grave
>> legislators marched solemnly down under their green gingham, while
>> philosophers, archaeologists, numismatists, antiquarians of all qualities,
>> and the public generally paid tribute to the Post's ingenuity." Of course,
>> the Common was empty of all jewel-bearing caverns, as the crowd of treasure
>> seekers eventually discovered to its disappointment.
>>
>>
>>
>

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http://www.universetoday.com/84577/the-great-moon-hoax-of-1835/                 
                          

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5 cavers from the convention are having a pleasant afternoon in the
Mexican bordertown of Ciudad Acuna.

Our host is Charlie Loving and his wife, and along with me are Jay
Jorden and David McLung.

We had a very nice dinner at the infamous Crosbys, accompanied by a
local Mariachi infamously
known here as El Buki.      The waiter that waited on us rolled out
the red carpet, as he is old acquaintences
with Charlie.

Now we are walking the deserted dusty streets of town, and it is
difficult to imagine how a bustling enterprise
can be in the desolate shape it is in now.    The 5 of us appear to be
the only customers in town.

David McLung is sitting in the salon of a dentist office pondering
whether to get an estimate on a broken
tooth.     I am down the street in a Panaderia, and asked the manager
if I could use his personal laptop,
and he said, "por supuesto."

I do not think we are in any hurry to cross back to the states, but
probably will by 5 p.m.

David Locklear

P.S.   I will try to post a video on YouTube once I get home.

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Dave,

You are missing Creature and Geoff Hoese's talk about caving in the Galapagos 
Islands--it's great.

Diana

..................................
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
(214) 645-6383 (office)
(214) 418-5827 (cell)
[email protected]

On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:48 PM, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 5 cavers from the convention are having a pleasant afternoon in the
> Mexican bordertown of Ciudad Acuna.
>
> Our host is Charlie Loving and his wife, and along with me are Jay
> Jorden and David McLung.
>
> We had a very nice dinner at the infamous Crosbys, accompanied by a
> local Mariachi infamously
> known here as El Buki.      The waiter that waited on us rolled out
> the red carpet, as he is old acquaintences
> with Charlie.
>
> Now we are walking the deserted dusty streets of town, and it is
> difficult to imagine how a bustling enterprise
> can be in the desolate shape it is in now.    The 5 of us appear to be
> the only customers in town.
>
> David McLung is sitting in the salon of a dentist office pondering
> whether to get an estimate on a broken
> tooth.     I am down the street in a Panaderia, and asked the manager
> if I could use his personal laptop,
> and he said, "por supuesto."
>
> I do not think we are in any hurry to cross back to the states, but
> probably will by 5 p.m.
>
> David Locklear
>
> P.S.   I will try to post a video on YouTube once I get home.
>
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I don't think it's TSA convention related if you're not at the convention. At 
the TSA convention, about 40 cavers are listening to Ron Ralph talk about the 
TSS, drinking Shiner beer, and getting ready to get rowdy during Bill Steele's 
dramatic poetry recital.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:48 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> 5 cavers from the convention are having a pleasant afternoon in the
> Mexican bordertown of Ciudad Acuna.
> 
> Our host is Charlie Loving and his wife, and along with me are Jay
> Jorden and David McLung.
> 
> We had a very nice dinner at the infamous Crosbys, accompanied by a
> local Mariachi infamously
> known here as El Buki.      The waiter that waited on us rolled out
> the red carpet, as he is old acquaintences
> with Charlie.
> 
> Now we are walking the deserted dusty streets of town, and it is
> difficult to imagine how a bustling enterprise
> can be in the desolate shape it is in now.    The 5 of us appear to be
> the only customers in town.
> 
> David McLung is sitting in the salon of a dentist office pondering
> whether to get an estimate on a broken
> tooth.     I am down the street in a Panaderia, and asked the manager
> if I could use his personal laptop,
> and he said, "por supuesto."
> 
> I do not think we are in any hurry to cross back to the states, but
> probably will by 5 p.m.
> 
> David Locklear
> 
> P.S.   I will try to post a video on YouTube once I get home.
> 
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What she said!


On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:51 PM, "David" <[email protected]> wrote:

5 cavers from the convention are having a pleasant afternoon in the
Mexican bordertown of Ciudad Acuna.

Our host is Charlie Loving and his wife, and along with me are Jay
Jorden and David McLung.

We had a very nice dinner at the infamous Crosbys, accompanied by a
local Mariachi infamously
known here as El Buki.      The waiter that waited on us rolled out
the red carpet, as he is old acquaintences
with Charlie.

Now we are walking the deserted dusty streets of town, and it is
difficult to imagine how a bustling enterprise
can be in the desolate shape it is in now.    The 5 of us appear to be
the only customers in town.

David McLung is sitting in the salon of a dentist office pondering
whether to get an estimate on a broken
tooth.     I am down the street in a Panaderia, and asked the manager
if I could use his personal laptop,
and he said, "por supuesto."

I do not think we are in any hurry to cross back to the states, but
probably will by 5 p.m.

David Locklear

P.S.   I will try to post a video on YouTube once I get home.

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