texascavers Digest 19 Jul 2013 16:42:49 -0000 Issue 1799
Topics (messages 22177 through 22186):
Re: Visit with Mallory and her family
22177 by: Logan McNatt
22178 by: caverarch
Venezuelan Tepuis, their Caves and Biota
22179 by: Mixon Bill
OFF TOPIC: recipes
22180 by: Katherine Arens
Re: Mallory updates (Thursday)
22181 by: caverarch
Re: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
22182 by: jerryatkin.aol.com
Kiwi Sink Dig
22183 by: Gill Edigar
Re: Fwd: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
22184 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
Re: [iztaxochitla] S�tano de las Golondrinas
22185 by: David Crusoe
Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)
22186 by: Julia Germany
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That is very good news, Roger. At the UTG meeting last night, a lot of concern
and caring was devoted to her.
On 7/18/2013 8:51 PM, caverarch wrote:
Grayson Knapp. Lyndon Tui, and I from the Greater Houston Grotto visited Mallory at 5:30 this afternoon. Things are looking up for Mallory.
The medical team is beginning the process of raising her body temperature as a prelude to waking her from her induced coma. That will take two
days, and be followed by the critical wake-up removal of the coma-inducing drugs. Everything is stable for now, and she looks good - even in
person. I know she wouldn't think so, but she looked just fine to me as I watched her breath smoothly and the monitors indicate steady
heartbeat and blood pressure and all. I left her room after telling Mallory that there was no way she was going to get out of being
responsible for lining up the speakers agenda for the next Texas Speleological Association Spring Convention, a job she has done for the last
three years.
It was also a great pleasure to see her brother Caleb Mayeux <https://www.facebook.com/caleb.mayeux> and meet Mal's mom Vickie, Mallory's
aunt, and an old friend from her college days. We shared Mallory stories, and I was able to tell Vickie of my own recovery in 2005 after 9
days in an induced coma. I assured her that Mal is much tougher than I, and that there is nothing to worry about, Things will be difficult in
the short term as Mallory will have to work hard to recovery her strength and I know she will be itching to drop pits again ASAP.
Roger G. Moore
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Yes, Ellie told me about the meeting. Mallory will know of the UTG concern soon.
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: Logan McNatt <[email protected]>
To: caverarch <[email protected]>
Cc: greater_houston_grotto <[email protected]>;
Texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2013 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visit with Mallory and her family
That is very good news, Roger. At the UTG meeting last night, a lot of
concern and caring was devoted to her.
On 7/18/2013 8:51 PM, caverarch wrote:
Grayson Knapp. Lyndon Tui, and I from the Greater
Houston Grotto visited Mallory at 5:30 this afternoon. Things
are looking up for Mallory. The medical team is beginning the
process of raising her body temperature as a prelude to waking
her from her induced coma. That will take two days, and be
followed by the critical wake-up removal of the coma-inducing
drugs. Everything is stable for now, and she looks good - even
in person. I know she wouldn't think so, but she looked just
fine to me as I watched her breath smoothly and the monitors
indicate steady heartbeat and blood pressure and all. I
left her room after telling Mallory that there was no way
she was going to get out of being responsible for lining up the
speakers agenda for the next Texas Speleological Association
Spring Convention, a job she has done for the last three years.
It was also a great pleasure to see her brother Caleb Mayeux and meet Mal's mom
Vickie, Mallory's aunt, and an old friend from her college days.
We shared Mallory stories, and I was able to tell Vickie of my
own recovery in 2005 after 9 days in an induced coma. I
assured her that Mal is much tougher than I, and that
there is nothing to worry about, Things will be difficult in the
short term as Mallory will have to work hard to recovery her
strength and I know she will be itching to drop pits again ASAP.
Roger G. Moore
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Jim Kennedy has pointed out that there's a very nice book on the
spectacular quartzite caves of the tapuis at http://www.academia.edu/3462814/Venezuelan_tepui_-_their_caves_and_biota
.
It is 170 pages, heavily illustrated with color photos. Some sort of
sign-up or log-in is apparently required; it may be easier if you're a
Facebook person. I got my file (155 MB PDF) another way and could
provide a copy via Dropbox to anyone who can't or doesn't want to
manage the sign-up procedure. -- Mixon
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Someone at a Sunday Swim at Strickland's wanted my recipe for banana cake.
It's downloadable from
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/arens/Recipes.doc
the doc has a couple of other good recipes that are simple.
katie
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)
Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when we
left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go slow
because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra slow
with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re very
slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They only
drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they
researchers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was too
high.
Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her friend from
college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol audition. He sings
great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event, and they were talking
about having a ten-year anniversary audition.
Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering gifts
of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater Houston Grotto
(Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed piggy bank.
I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s apartment
in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.
Vickie
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--- Begin Message ---
Check out the cost of dropping the pit with a guide.
Jerry.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Galo" <[email protected]>
> Date: July 18, 2013 10:02:53 PM CDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Reportaje del periódico El Universal en México sobre el sótano de las
> Golondrinas. En las entrañas del abismo más profundo de la Huasteca Potosina,
> en compañía de un espeleólogo.
>
> Link:
> http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/graficos/graficosanimados13/EU_Sotano_Golondrinas/
>
> Saludos
>
> Galo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> 16° Congreso Internacional de Espeleología. Brno, 21 a 28 de julio de 2013
> http://www.speleo2013.com/
>
> Goldschmidt 2013. 25-30 de agosto. Florencia
> http://goldschmidt.info/2013/index
>
> Balkan Speleological Conference. 28-30 March 2014, Sofia
> http://www.balkan-speleo-2014.eu/eng/home.html
>
> XII Congreso IAEG. Torino, Italia. 15 a 19 de septiembre de 2014.
> http://www.iaeg2014.com/
>
> Entrañas del Mundo Perdido
> http://www.charlesbrewercarias.com/
>
> Glackma: Glaciares, criokarst y medio ambiente
> http://www.glackma.es/
>
> Sociedad Espeleológica de Cuba
> http://quimred.fq.uh.cu/sec/
>
> Cultura de Montaña http://www.culturademontania.com.ar
>
> Espeleofoto http://www.espeleofoto.com/
>
> Arqueología subacuática
> http://www.inah.gob.mx/paseos/SubAcuatico/SubAcuatico.html
>
> Aviso de Tormentas Intensas y Granizo:
> http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/avisos/tormentas/tormenta.html
>
> Pronóstico de lluvias y temperaturas en las principales ciudades de México
> http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/mcs/mcs09b.html
>
> Unión Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleólogicas - UMAE
> http://www.umae.org
>
> Espeleo Rescate México
> http://www.espeleorescatemexico.com/
>
> ¿Quieres venir a México?
> http://www.inami.gob.mx/principal.asp
>
> FEALC - http://www.fealc.org/
>
> Unión Internacional de Espeleología - UIS
> www.uis-speleo.org
>
> International Journal of Speleology
> http://www.ijs.speleo.it/index.php?lang=spa
>
> Código de Etica de la UIS para la Exploración y Ciencia Relacionadas con
> Cuevas en Países Extranjeros
> http://www.uis-speleo.org/ethic-en.html (inglés)
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>
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>
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Due to the recent rains I have canceled the Kiwi Sink Dig scheduled for
this Sunday the 21st July. There will be no digs in August. We'll see you
again in September.
--Ediger
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--- Begin Message ---
Holy Cow! I'd drop it (right off my "do" list) at that rate. Dropping it
should be free, it's the climb out that's worth paying for...
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
[email protected]
________________________________
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:11 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
Check out the cost of dropping the pit with a guide.
Jerry.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Galo" <[email protected]>
>Date: July 18, 2013 10:02:53 PM CDT
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>
Reportaje del periódico El Universal en México sobre el sótano de las
Golondrinas. En las entrañas del abismo más profundo de la Huasteca Potosina,
en compañía de un espeleólogo.
>
>Link:
>http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/graficos/graficosanimados13/EU_Sotano_Golondrinas/
>
>Saludos
>
>Galo
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>16° Congreso Internacional de Espeleología. Brno, 21 a 28 de julio de 2013
>http://www.speleo2013.com/
>
>Goldschmidt 2013. 25-30 de agosto. Florencia
>http://goldschmidt.info/2013/index
>
>Balkan Speleological Conference. 28-30 March 2014, Sofia
>http://www.balkan-speleo-2014.eu/eng/home.html
>
>XII Congreso IAEG. Torino, Italia. 15 a 19 de septiembre de 2014.
>http://www.iaeg2014.com/
>
>Entrañas del Mundo Perdido
>http://www.charlesbrewercarias.com/
>
>Glackma: Glaciares, criokarst y medio ambiente
>http://www.glackma.es/
>
>Sociedad Espeleológica de Cuba
>http://quimred.fq.uh.cu/sec/
>
>Cultura de Montaña http://www.culturademontania.com.ar
>
>Espeleofoto http://www.espeleofoto.com/
>
>Arqueología subacuática
>http://www.inah.gob.mx/paseos/SubAcuatico/SubAcuatico.html
>
>Aviso de Tormentas Intensas y Granizo:
>http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/avisos/tormentas/tormenta.html
>
>Pronóstico de lluvias y temperaturas en las principales ciudades de México
>http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/mcs/mcs09b.html
>
>Unión Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleólogicas - UMAE
>http://www.umae.org
>
>Espeleo Rescate México
>http://www.espeleorescatemexico.com/
>
>¿Quieres venir a México?
>http://www.inami.gob.mx/principal.asp
>
>FEALC - http://www.fealc.org/
>
>Unión Internacional de Espeleología - UIS
>www.uis-speleo.org
>
>International Journal of Speleology http://www.ijs.speleo.it/index.php?lang=spa
>
>Código de Etica de la UIS para la Exploración y Ciencia Relacionadas con
>Cuevas en Países Extranjeros
>http://www.uis-speleo.org/ethic-en.html (inglés)
>http://www.uis-speleo.org/ethic-es.html (español)
>
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"Carlos Edmundo Cortés es espeleólogo certificado por la American
Canoe Association"
A translation error, perhaps? Or does the American Canoe
Association... uh... certify... cavers...?
--Dave / Boston Grotto
2013/7/19 Andy Gluesenkamp <[email protected]>:
> Holy Cow! I'd drop it (right off my "do" list) at that rate. Dropping it
> should be free, it's the climb out that's worth paying for...
>
> Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
> 700 Billie Brooks Drive
> Driftwood, Texas 78619
> (512) 799-1095
> [email protected]
> ________________________________
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:11 AM
> Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
>
> Check out the cost of dropping the pit with a guide.
>
> Jerry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Galo" <[email protected]>
> Date: July 18, 2013 10:02:53 PM CDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [iztaxochitla] Sótano de las Golondrinas
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Reportaje del periódico El Universal en México sobre el sótano de las
> Golondrinas. En las entrañas del abismo más profundo de la Huasteca
> Potosina, en compañía de un espeleólogo.
>
> Link:
> http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/graficos/graficosanimados13/EU_Sotano_Golondrinas/
>
> Saludos
>
> Galo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> 16° Congreso Internacional de Espeleología. Brno, 21 a 28 de julio de 2013
> http://www.speleo2013.com/
>
> Goldschmidt 2013. 25-30 de agosto. Florencia
> http://goldschmidt.info/2013/index
>
> Balkan Speleological Conference. 28-30 March 2014, Sofia
> http://www.balkan-speleo-2014.eu/eng/home.html
>
> XII Congreso IAEG. Torino, Italia. 15 a 19 de septiembre de 2014.
> http://www.iaeg2014.com/
>
> Entrañas del Mundo Perdido
> http://www.charlesbrewercarias.com/
>
> Glackma: Glaciares, criokarst y medio ambiente
> http://www.glackma.es/
>
> Sociedad Espeleológica de Cuba
> http://quimred.fq.uh.cu/sec/
>
> Cultura de Montaña http://www.culturademontania.com.ar
>
> Espeleofoto http://www.espeleofoto.com/
>
> Arqueología subacuática
> http://www.inah.gob.mx/paseos/SubAcuatico/SubAcuatico.html
>
> Aviso de Tormentas Intensas y Granizo:
> http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/avisos/tormentas/tormenta.html
>
> Pronóstico de lluvias y temperaturas en las principales ciudades de México
> http://smn.cna.gob.mx/boletin/mcs/mcs09b.html
>
> Unión Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleólogicas - UMAE
> http://www.umae.org
>
> Espeleo Rescate México
> http://www.espeleorescatemexico.com/
>
> ¿Quieres venir a México?
> http://www.inami.gob.mx/principal.asp
>
> FEALC - http://www.fealc.org/
>
> Unión Internacional de Espeleología - UIS
> www.uis-speleo.org
>
> International Journal of Speleology
> http://www.ijs.speleo.it/index.php?lang=spa
>
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> Cuevas en Países Extranjeros
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I am at Hermann Hospital now. I have a pulmonary function test @ 12:30. Since I
have never had one, I don't know how long it will last. I plan to go see Mal,
sign the Grotto bear and visit w/ her family when I am done with the test.
Given Kevin's message, I will probably be gone by the time y'all arrive.
Staggered visits are probably best anyway.
I am wearing my Longhorn Cavern bat shirt :)
I also brought my candle that is "cave" scented that I bought at the Kerrville
ICS. I really hope she is off the breathing tube and can have cave scented
aromatherapy! It sure helps me when I am at work and missing that awesome smell.
I will update y'all after my visit.
- from julia's cell
On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:21, "Kevin McGowan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m not sure… Em gets out of work about 3 or so.. and she’s coming by to pick
> me up.. My car is in the shop until the end of the day…
>
> K
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of can evren Yarman
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What time are you planning to go? If I can arrange with my wife and kid I
> would like to come as well...
>
> EVREN
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kevin McGowan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> That is GREAT news!!! Em and I are going to try to get over there later
> today.. if possible J
>
> K
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of caverarch
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:37 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM
>
> Subject: RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)
>
>
>
> Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when we
> left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go slow
> because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra slow
> with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re very
> slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They only
> drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they rese
> archers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was too
> high.
>
>
>
> Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her friend
> from college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol audition. He
> sings great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event, and they were
> talking about having a ten-year anniversary audition.
>
>
>
> Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering
> gifts of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater Houston
> Grotto (Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed piggy bank.
>
>
>
> I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s
> apartment in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.
>
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