texascavers Digest 25 Jul 2012 16:52:13 -0000 Issue 1596
Topics (messages 20406 through 20413):
Re: fumes
20406 by: Preston Forsythe
20407 by: Geary Schindel
20408 by: Stefan Creaser
20410 by: Bill Bentley
20412 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
a little more hlep
20409 by: Jill Orr
Re: :[i] Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: I need help in Spain
20411 by: Fritz Holt
Re: fumes in CC visitor center
20413 by: Louise Power
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That's why I recommended the new approved coal miners light on this forum a
month or so ago as the light is methane proof allowing you to breath about
anything with setting off an explosion.
Preston
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From: "Mixon Bill" <bmixon...@austin.rr.com>
To: "Cavers Texas" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes
The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are
making you sick, they very well might. -- Mixon
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Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues where we
never found the substance. A number of people got sick. Was it because the
first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the floor of the
classroom. Someone else tosses their cookies because they can't stand the
small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes (tossed cookies) and
then the building is evacuated.
About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it because
they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals in use in
society and was a real hazard. Since the building was ventilated, the evidence
may be gone. Or was it food poisoning or someone eating too many cookies, was
the person pregnant and had morning sickness but didn't want anyone to know so
they made up the story, or was it physiological. No one will ever know.
G
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From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes
The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon
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All this talk of being sick is making me sick.
Time for coffee and cookies.
-Stefan
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From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:38 AM
To: 'Mixon Bill'; Cavers Texas
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] fumes
Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues where we
never found the substance. A number of people got sick. Was it because the
first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the floor of the
classroom. Someone else tosses their cookies because they can't stand the
small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes (tossed cookies) and
then the building is evacuated.
About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it because
they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals in use in
society and was a real hazard. Since the building was ventilated, the evidence
may be gone. Or was it food poisoning or someone eating too many cookies, was
the person pregnant and had morning sickness but didn't want anyone to know so
they made up the story, or was it physiological. No one will ever know.
G
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From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes
The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon
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Don't like the rails...windows are okay
On Jul 25, 2012 10:53 AM, "Stefan Creaser" <stefan.crea...@arm.com> wrote:
> All this talk of being sick is making me sick.
>
> Time for coffee and cookies.
>
> -Stefan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:38 AM
> To: 'Mixon Bill'; Cavers Texas
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] fumes
>
> Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues
> where we never found the substance. A number of people got sick. Was it
> because the first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the
> floor of the classroom. Someone else tosses their cookies because they
> can't stand the small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes
> (tossed cookies) and then the building is evacuated.
>
> About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it
> because they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals
> in use in society and was a real hazard. Since the building was
> ventilated, the evidence may be gone. Or was it food poisoning or someone
> eating too many cookies, was the person pregnant and had morning sickness
> but didn't want anyone to know so they made up the story, or was it
> physiological. No one will ever know.
>
> G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] fumes
>
> The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are
> making you sick, they very well might. -- Mixon
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What about banana peels? Suggestion FAIL.
--- On Wed, 7/25/12, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon
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For all who have no way of telling photo resolution, here is a good way to
determine if your photos are going to be big enough to print:
Look at the file size:
If the KB is under 500 KB chances are it's too small for print.
40 and 50 KB are only good for viewing online and not printable.
500 KB and over should be ok. Around 1 MB is optimal.
Sorry I didn't tell you all this way first time around.
Thanks !
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Be specific.
F
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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Allan B. Cobb; Diana Tomchick
Cc: Cave Tex
Subject: [Texascavers] RE: :[i] Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: I need help in Spain
I need help here in Mesquite.
Send ME some money!
Mark
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:11 AM
To: Diana Tomchick
Cc: Cave Tex
Subject: s::[i] Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: I need help in Spain
It's a scam?!?! I just sent him the $4.5 million I won in the Nigerian lottery.
Boy do I feel dumb.
Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Diana Tomchick
<diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>>
wrote:
Just in case there isn't someone out there that doesn't know this is a scam
(and there still are people, thank the Lord my mother doesn't have an email
account), please don't send the money. Tom, you've been hacked.
Diana
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Professor
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Department of Biophysics
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Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
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From: Tom Brown <cavei...@yahoo.com<mailto:cavei...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: I need help in Spain
Date: July 25, 2012 6:41:05 AM CDT
To: <cavei...@yahoo.com<mailto:cavei...@yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: <cavei...@aol.com<mailto:cavei...@aol.com>>
I just arrived in Spain, I need your help, I'm in a fix. Can I get a loan of
€1,360? You'll have it as soon as I get back home. I lost my bank card, I'll
appreciate what you can give if not all. Western Union happens to be fastest
and secure means. Kindly get it wired to my name, current location :- Narvaez
69 - Esquina Calle Sainz De Baranda, ZIP Code: 28009 Madrid, Spain. I will also
need the MTCN on the receipt that will be give to you by the Western Union to
pick up the money here. I really appreciate this.
Thanks
Tom
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Ah Ted, from a current fed to a retired fed that was the thought that crossed
my mind, too. However, at Carlsbad (I worked there for 2 seasons) they can
compel personnel to go get checked out, but they can't compel visitors. As a
matter of fact, we could not even call an ambulance unless the visitor okayed
it (and they had to pay for it).
A lot of us were EMTs (me included) and could determine the need and could even
carry peeps out of the cave. I once sat with a woman in the infirmary who was
8-1/2 months pregnant while her husband and kids toured the cave. After looking
at her I did recommend the short tour starting at the Lunchroom and a quick
trip to the emergency room in Carlsbad as they were leaving. Of course, it was
100+ degrees. That was my experience.
Louise
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:47:19 -0500
From: t.b.sam...@gmail.com
To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center
Fear of lawsuits is wimpishness? Christ on a crutch. Get a grip.
Ted
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
The fact that a few staff "had to" be taken to hospital does not prove that
there was any real danger or there were any real injuries, given the "excess of
caution" (wimpishness) that prevails these days. One would have to know more to
decide. -- Mixon
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