texascavers Digest 11 Oct 2011 18:32:34 -0000 Issue 1407
Topics (messages 18750 through 18762):
TCMA at TCR
18750 by: Linda Palit
Does TCR start Thursday or Friday?
18751 by: Joe Ranzau
visiting cavers
18752 by: Jim Kennedy
Longhorn Group Wild Cave Trip During TCR - If Interested, Read This!
18753 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
TSA paper ballot request
18754 by: Ron Ralph
TSA elections
18755 by: Ron Ralph
18757 by: Ron Ralph
TCMA elections
18756 by: Ron Ralph
deep cave in Russia
18758 by: Mixon Bill
Re: Longhorn Group Wild Cave Trip During TCR - If Interested, Read This! Time
Change
18759 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
TCMA breakfast volunteers needed
18760 by: Saj Zappitello
TCR banquet info
18761 by: Mixon Bill
18762 by: Stefan Creaser
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Hey, Cavers!
TCR is almost here! People will be at Flat Creek Thursday setting up (and
we can always use more help), and TCMA will be putting up the usual tables
for membership, the new *Passages*, and tshirt sales! We also have a
special offering that you will hear more about later.
There will be *NO Garage Sale* this year; we were needing lots of trucks to
take things that did not sell to Good Will or whatever. Save those gems for
the auction at Spring Conventionl.
Sunday we will have breakfast at 7:30 and our meeting will be at 9am. You
will be able to hear from the candidates running for TCMA Board at the
meeting. The election is by email or snail mail this year.
Start packing! It's going to be a great one.
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Hey Old Man Wisdom! Does TCR start on Friday? I keep reading about
stuff on Thursday and am wondering when it is ok to arrive?
Curious,
Joe
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Two northeastern cavers are visiting for TCR, Mike Warner from
Speleobooks and Thom Engle from the Northeast Cave Conservancy. They
will be arriving in Austin on Wednesday, and need bed space for that
night. They will be heading out to TCR on Thursday. Normally I have
crash space available, but Tone is also in town this week and staying at
my house. If anyone has a couple of empty beds to spare, please let me
know and I will pass your contact info along to Mike and Thom. They are
riding together, on their way here from the National Cave and Karst
Management Symposium in Utah.
-- Jim
[email protected]
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Good morning, y'all!
I have had a good response for the wild caving trip at Longhorn Caverns
State Park, scheduled for 10 AM this coming Saturday. I suggest leaving
TCR at 9 AM.
I'll have room for one.
To recap:
Longhorn Caverns State Park is a mere ~30 miles away.
Prices are:
$17 plus tax per person, if you have your own gear. Regular rate is
$25.
$27 plus tax per person, if you have your own gear and would like a
collectible t-shirt to commemorate your trip.
If you need to use their equipment it's $10.00 extra. Includes helmet,
light, and knee and elbow pads.
The trip is approximately 2 hours in length and will involve areas of
the cave that most of us have never been in.
They have a very nice cafeteria at the park, where we'll do lunch, and a
way cool Gift Shop. We'll be back in plenty of time for cavorting, rest
and relaxation in the afternoon.
This trip is suitable for kids, as well, so bring 'em along!
There still is room for more folks to participate, but, ...
IMPORTANT! Everyone needs to call the office and go ahead and make their
reservation so the Park will know how many guides are needed. You will
need to pay for it at that time.
Please call Pam Plant at (512) 756-4680.
This trip and TCR will be a great time and we'll see you there!
Mark
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Members of the Texas Speleological Association,
If you will not be able to attend TCR this week-end but wish to vote in the
general election of Texas Speleological Association officers for 2011, you
need to write me with your best USPS address to receive a ballot. Official
ballots will be mailed out on Monday, October 18, one to each individual or
student membership and two to each family membership. Please promptly return
the card (postmarked by Wednesday, October 26) as I will do the final count
on Saturday, October 30. You will need to provide an envelope, stamp and
then mail to the TSA post office box provided on the ballot.
Remember that all candidates must be NSS members, so inquire if you have a
write-in vote. And please write or give me a call if you have questions. If
you know of a member who does not subscribe to “texascavers,” please pass
on this information for me.
Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair
13101 Wild Turkey Drive
Manchaca, TX 78652
[email protected]
(512) 280-9648
Sample Ballot (for the Sunday, October 17, 2010 election)
□ Chairman Mark Alman NSS #
43400
□ Chairman Don Arburn NSS #
56822
□ Vice Chairman Ellie Watson NSS #
60439
□ Treasurer Michael Cicherski NSS #
36668
□ Secretary Denise Prendergast NSS #
48638
□ Floor nomination ________________________________
□ Write in vote ________________________________
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Cavers,
Nominations are now closed 4 officer positions for the Texas Speleological
Survey. Voting will be Sunday, October 17 around 8:00 am at TCR. Be there to
vote or write me for a paper ballot (see other posting for instructions).
Bring a pencil, pen, or sharp pointed object to draw blood if you wish to
vote. The TSA will provide ballots and a ballot box. If you want to nominate
someone from the floor, you may do so. If you want to get together with your
cabal and write-in a candidate (NSS members only please), there is a spot on
the ballot for that also. See you Sunday morning.
Ron Ralph
Elections Committee Chair
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Let me correct that - Nominations are now closed for the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION. Too many organizations out there.
Ron
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From: Ron Ralph [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA elections
Cavers,
Nominations are now closed 4 officer positions for the Texas Speleological
Survey. Voting will be Sunday, October 17 around 8:00 am at TCR. Be there to
vote or write me for a paper ballot (see other posting for instructions).
Bring a pencil, pen, or sharp pointed object to draw blood if you wish to
vote. The TSA will provide ballots and a ballot box. If you want to nominate
someone from the floor, you may do so. If you want to get together with your
cabal and write-in a candidate (NSS members only please), there is a spot on
the ballot for that also. See you Sunday morning.
Ron Ralph
Elections Committee Chair
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To Current Members of the Texas Cave Management Association,
Elections are now open for a new slate of Directors. If you will not be able
to vote using the new electronic system and wish to vote in this election,
you need to write me with your best USPS address to receive a paper ballot.
Ballots will be mailed back one to each current member of the TCMA. You will
need to promptly return the card (postmarked by October 24th) as the
election clerks will do the final count later that week. You will need to
provide an envelope with stamp and then post your ballot to the TCMA post
office box.
Please give me a call if you have questions.
Ron Ralph
TCMA Database Committee
[email protected]
(512) 280-9648
Sample 2012 Board of Directors Ballot
□ Mallory Mayeux NSS # 60777
□ Michael Cicherski NSS # 36668
□ Ann Scott NSS # 42235
□ Jill Orr
□ Wesley Schumacher NSS # 53257
□ Write in vote ________________________________
□ Write in vote ________________________________
Return to the Texas Cave Management Association
PO Box 7427
Austin, TX 78713
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Laura Rosales forwarded this message to a Mexican cavers e-mail list,
even though it is in English. I'm quoting it here. -- Mixon
From: Speleogenesis Network <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Subject: Sarma Cave became the second deepest cave in the world
Pavel Rud’ko of Krasnoyarsk (Rissia, Siberia) has reported the
success of the recent expedition of Krasnoyarsk cavers to the Sarma
Cave, Arabika Massif, Western Caucasus. The cave, previously explored
by cavers from Krasnoyarsk and Irkutsk to -1570 m, has now been made
almost 200 m deeper, to reach depth of -1760m and become the second
deepest cave in the world.
The expedition led by Pavel Rud’ko has been carried out between
September 1st – October 7th, 2011. The main branch has been pushed
to -1760 m after breaking through a narrow meander at the old bottom.
Many side and ascending passages in other parts of the cave have been
also explored. The expedition performed systematic temperature
measurements, and speleobiological and microbiological sampling.
With its new depth figure, Sarma surpassed the
Illjuzia-Mezhonnogo-Snezhnaya system (-1753 m), located in the nearby
Bzybsky Massif, and became the second deepest cave in the world,
following Krubera Cave (-2191 m) located in the same massif. Thus, the
western Caucasus now hosts three deepest caves in the worlds, two of
them in Arabika Massif and one in Bzybsky Massif.
Some details of geology, hydrogeology and cave locations of Arabika
can be found at
http://institute.speleoukraine.net/libpdf/Klimchouk%20et%20al_2009_The%20deepest%20cave..._ICS%20Proceedings.pdf
--Alexander Klimchouk
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I believe there are
15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,
468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,
631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.—
Sir Arthur Eddington
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The time that the park has requested we begin our trip has changed from
10 AM to 11 AM.
Please call to reserve a spot, if you haven't already done so.
Please call Pam Plant at (512) 756-4680.
See you there and please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Mark
_____________________________________________
From: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Subject: Longhorn Group Wild Cave Trip During TCR - If Interested, Read
This!
Good morning, y'all!
I have had a good response for the wild caving trip at Longhorn Caverns
State Park, scheduled for 10 AM this coming Saturday. I suggest leaving
TCR at 9 AM.
I'll have room for one.
To recap:
Longhorn Caverns State Park is a mere ~30 miles away.
Prices are:
$17 plus tax per person, if you have your own gear. Regular rate is
$25.
$27 plus tax per person, if you have your own gear and would like a
collectible t-shirt to commemorate your trip.
If you need to use their equipment it's $10.00 extra. Includes helmet,
light, and knee and elbow pads.
The trip is approximately 2 hours in length and will involve areas of
the cave that most of us have never been in.
They have a very nice cafeteria at the park, where we'll do lunch, and a
way cool Gift Shop. We'll be back in plenty of time for cavorting, rest
and relaxation in the afternoon.
This trip is suitable for kids, as well, so bring 'em along!
There still is room for more folks to participate, but, ...
IMPORTANT! Everyone needs to call the office and go ahead and make their
reservation so the Park will know how many guides are needed. You will
need to pay for it at that time.
Please call Pam Plant at (512) 756-4680.
This trip and TCR will be a great time and we'll see you there!
Mark
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Howdy!
We could use some volunteers to help cook, serve, and clean-up for the TCMA
breakfast on Sunday morning at TCR. Who wants to help?!?!
Thanks!
~Saj
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Just a note for new people who might not be aware of the
idiosyncrassies of the TCR caver-catered feed Saturday night at the
coming Texas Caver Reunion: You will be expected to bring your own
plate, utensils, and drinking vessel. -- Mixon
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I believe there are
15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,
468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,
631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.—
Sir Arthur Eddington
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You may "reply" to the address this message
came from, but for long-term use, save:
Personal: [email protected]
AMCS: [email protected] or [email protected]
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Thanks for posting that Bill, it would be a shame if people didn't have
anything to eat out of/with on Saturday!
A few other things I'd like to bring up...
1) The cooks will need help on Saturday preparing their dishes; please come by
and help by chopping and stirring, it'll be much appreciated!!
2) We will also need help serving the food, there are special privileges for
those who do. If you'd like to help please come and find me on Saturday and
sign-up (probably need at *least* 10 people). If you're helping then you'll
need to be available at ** 5pm **.
3) Stay cool by standing in the shade and washing up - now Rod Goke has gone
(RIP) we have a big hole to fill :-(
4) We'll be posting a menu on Cavetex (we hope), and certainly on the day, with
ingredients so you can decide if you can eat a dish or not. We have taken
account of common allergies; if you're uncommon then volunteer to cook next
year :-)
5) The theme is Pirate/Caribbean, come prepared!
Cheers,
Stefan
(Chief cook and bottle washer)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR banquet info
Just a note for new people who might not be aware of the
idiosyncrassies of the TCR caver-catered feed Saturday night at the
coming Texas Caver Reunion: You will be expected to bring your own
plate, utensils, and drinking vessel. -- Mixon
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