texascavers Digest 18 Sep 2011 19:14:44 -0000 Issue 1394
Topics (messages 18607 through 18608):
Re: Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming
18607 by: Stephen Fleming
Ideas for NSS membership improvement
18608 by: R D Milhollin
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Seems to be a parallel here with the 'science' of a human vector for WNS.
Oft-speculated; never demonstrated.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:38, Ron Ralph <ronra...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Cavers,****
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> Getting too warm in that cave?****
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> Ron****
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> *From:* Texas Archeological Society List [mailto:
> txarc...@listserv.tamu.edu] *On Behalf Of *David Calame
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2011 11:56 AM
> *To:* txarc...@listserv.tamu.edu
> *Subject:* Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming****
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> Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming****
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> Published September 14, 2011****
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> FoxNews.com****
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> NASA****
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> The global
> warming<http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/>theory
> left him out in the cold.
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> Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly announced his
> resignation Tuesday, Sept. 13, from the premier physics society in disgust
> over its officially stated policy that "global warming is occurring."****
>
> The official position of the American Physical
> Society<http://aps.org/policy/statements/07_1.cfm>(APS) supports the theory
> that man's actions have inexorably led to the
> warming of the planet, through increased emissions of carbon dioxide.****
>
> Giaever does not agree -- and put it bluntly and succinctly in the subject
> line of his email, reprinted at Climate
> Depot<http://www.climatedepot.com/a/12797/Exclusive-Nobel-PrizeWinning-Physicist-Who-Endorsed-Obama-Dissents-Resigns-from-American-Physical-Society-Over-Groups-Promotion-of-ManMade-Global-Warming>,
> a website devoted to debunking the theory of man-made climate
> change<http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/>
> .****
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> "I resign from APS," Giaever wrote.****
>
> Giaever was cooled to the statement on warming theory by a line claiming
> that "the evidence is incontrovertible."****
>
> "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over
> time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is
> incontrovertible?" he wrote in an email to Kate
> Kirby<http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/>,
> executive officer of the physics society. ****
>
> "The claim … is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8
> degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the
> temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness
> have definitely improved in this 'warming' period," his email message said.
> ****
>
> A spokesman for the APS confirmed to FoxNews.com that the Nobel Laureate
> had declined to pay his annual dues in the society and had resigned. He also
> noted that the society had no plans to revise its statement.****
>
> The use of the word "incontrovertible" had already caused debate within the
> group, so much so that an addendum was added to the statement discussing its
> use in April, 2010.****
>
> "The word 'incontrovertible' ... is rarely used in science because by its
> very nature, science questions prevailing ideas. The observational data
> indicate a global surface warming of 0.74 °C (+/- 0.18 °C) since the late
> 19th century."****
>
> Giaever earned his Nobel for his experimental discoveries regarding
> tunneling
> phenomena<http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/>in
> superconductors. He has since become a vocal dissenter from the alleged
> “consensus” regarding man-made climate fears, Climate Depot reported, noting
> that he was one of more than 100 co-signers of a 2009 letter to President
> Obama<http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/obama-administration/barack-obama.htm#r_src=ramp>critical
> of his position on climate change.
> ****
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> Public perception of climate change has steadily fallen since late 2009. A
> Rasmussen
> Reports<http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/elections-2008/rasmussen-poll.htm#r_src=ramp>public
> opinion poll from August noted that 57 percent of adults believe
> there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global
> warming, up five points from late 2009.****
>
> The same study showed that 69 percent of those polled believe it’s at least
> somewhat likely that some
> scientists<http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/>have
> falsified research data in order to support their own theories and
> beliefs. Just 6 percent felt confident enough to report that such
> falsification was "not at all likely."****
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> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/#ixzz1Y6s3TNAe
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> http://www.climatedepot.com/a/12797/Exclusive-Nobel-PrizeWinning-Physicist-Who-Endorsed-Obama-Dissents-Resigns-from-American-Physical-Society-Over-Groups-Promotion-of-ManMade-Global-Warming
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Stephen Fleming
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*Fear is the Thief of Dreams -- Unknown*
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NSS Director and Planning Committee member Dean Wiseman posted this to the VAR
list, so I am passing it along to the Texas and New Mexico lists as well. As
Planning Committee chair and denizen of the drier part of the caving country I
will be happy to help Dean receive suggests and pass them along to the
committee and Board.
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On the NSS Planning Committee, we're trying to move forward on issues
central to the future of the NSS. One category we're working on is the idea
that we can do things to improve the value of an NSS Membership. To that
end, if you have ideas or thoughts on ways to improve value, I'd love to
hear them.
Fair warning, though: I've already sent messages out to CaveChat and other
listservs, and what typically happens is that I get a gripe list about
either what the NSS isn't doing, or should be doing, or specific beefs about
past policy decisions. That's all well and good, and I personally do my
best to take such responses into consideration, but with all due respect,
this request I'm putting out is for ideas on how to move forward. In other
words, I'm looking for good-faith effort to bring ideas to the table... No
idea is a bad idea.
Please email me off-list with your responses.
Thanks, in advance, for your help,
Dean Wiseman
NSS#32690 RL, Board of Directors
Member, NSS Planning Committee
RD Milhollin
NSS 29962 RE
Chair, NSS Planning Committee
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