texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2011 01:15:33 -0000 Issue 1301
Topics (messages 17690 through 17700):
Ft Davis fire update
17690 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
17692 by: caverarch
Re: Important Information for Atwater Carey First Aid Kit Consumers Regarding
Triad Group's Povidone Iodine Prep Pads
17691 by: Nigel Dyson-Hudson
Pond Party and Sunday Swims
17693 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
Plague of Locusts Next
17694 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
17698 by: Gill Edigar
17699 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com
17700 by: Rod Goke
Oil, Fire, and Ants
17695 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
Cave Bean
17696 by: Justin Shaw
17697 by: Fritz Holt
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The Ft. Davis fire is getting better controlled. Winds are predicted to be
more favorable for control today than the latest map, which was 10 hours ago
- http://www.inciweb.org/incident/2166/
The Shurley Fire in Presidio County has been contained. According to the
County’s current estimate, 3,500 acres burned.
The Davis Mountains Resort was never seriously threatened.
DirtDoc
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Thanks for posting this, Doc, and for including the Incident web site link. I
didn't take the time to locate the fore in Walker County here in East Texas
since I don't know its name (if it has one) and there is no County index, but I
could take a look at the Lincoln NF Last Chance fire around Sitting Bull Falls
and Dark Canyon Road.
Roger Moore
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From: [email protected]
To: Cave Texas <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 8:13 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Ft Davis fire update
The Ft. Davis fire is getting better controlled. Winds are predicted to be
more favorable for control today than the latest map, which was 10 hours ago
- http://www.inciweb.org/incident/2166/
The Shurley Fire in Presidio County has been contained. According to the
County’s current estimate, 3,500 acres burned.
The Davis Mountains Resort was never seriously threatened.
DirtDoc
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Via my wife.
nigel dyson-hudson [email protected] www.cavesar.com
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons because you are crunchy and taste good with Dinosaur BBQ barbecue sauce.
From: "U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA)" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:59:25 -0400
Subject: Important Information for Atwater Carey First Aid Kit Consumers
Regarding Triad Group's Povidone Iodine Prep Pads
Thread-Topic: Important Information for Atwater Carey First Aid Kit
Consumers Regarding Triad Group's Povidone Iodine Prep Pads
Important Information for Atwater Carey First Aid Kit Consumers Regarding Triad Group's Povidone Iodine Prep Pads
Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:02:00 -0500
Wisconsin Pharmacal Company, LLC has become aware of a broad United States market recall of Triad Povidone Iodine Prep Pads, manufactured by H&P Industries Inc. and marketed under various brand names including Triad. The Triad Povidone Iodine Prep Pads were included in the Atware Carey First Aid Kits distributed by Wisconsin Pharmacal Company. In the interest of consumer safety, Wisconsin Pharmacal wants to ensure that U.S. consumers using Atwater Carey First Aid Kits are aware of the Triad recall.
Manage your FDA Subscriptions: |
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Our big party of the year, the Pond Party, will be Sat, June 11th, from 2:00
p.m. to late night. Bring your own meat to BBQ and a dish to share. BBQs will
be going by 5:00 and we will eat around 6:00. Soft drinks and a keg of dark
beer will be provided. Bring towels, flashlight and maybe a lawn chair. The
party features swimming in the pond, a hot tub and a sauna. Camping available.
We are starting Sunday Swims early this year because its already hot and I'm
not sure how long the pond will be full if it doesn't rain a bunch. Sunday
Swims are smaller events from 2:00 to 6:00 or so with no organized food or
drink. We will have Sunday Swims May 8th, 15th and 22nd. On Memorial Day
weekend we will move the Sunday Swim to Monday, May 30th, to put it at the end
of the weekend. We will have two Sunday Swims in June on the 5th and 19th.
The following three Sundays and any in August will depend on rain and be
announced later. For more info call Pete (c) 512-897-9235.
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Fires seem to be getting under better controll, but an Earthquake occurred in
northern Mexico about 35 miles southwest of Sierra Blanca, Texas. Tremors were
felt in El Paso. Some landowners have complained of sudden changes to their
water pressure.
DirtDoc
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It must have been less than 4.0 as it didn't show up on the USGS report.
--Ediger
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fires seem to be getting under better controll, but an* Earthquake* occurred
> in northern Mexico about 35 miles southwest of Sierra Blanca, Texas. Tremors
> were felt in El Paso. Some landowners have complained of sudden changes to
> their water pressure.
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> DirtDoc
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That's strange. The USGS Earthquakes website listed two tremors that
occurred on April 28th :
M 4.3 : 36 miles SW of Sierra Blanca, TX; Depth - 6 miles
M 4.1 : 41 miles S of Fort Hancock, TX; Depth 6 miles
Jerry.
In a message dated 4/29/2011 7:08:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
It must have been less than 4.0 as it didn't show up on the USGS report.
--Ediger
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:19 AM, <[email protected]_
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:
Fires seem to be getting under better controll, but an Earthquake occurred
in northern Mexico about 35 miles southwest of Sierra Blanca, Texas.
Tremors were felt in El Paso. Some landowners have complained of sudden
changes
to their water pressure.
DirtDoc
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Is this believed to be a natural earthquake, or is it, like some other small recent earthquakes, suspected to be a result of fracking? Does anyone know whether or not fracking has been used much near that area?
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From: [email protected]
Sent: Apr 29, 2011 7:42 PM
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Plague of Locusts Next
That's strange. The USGS Earthquakes website listed two tremors that
occurred on April 28th :
M 4.3 : 36 miles SW of Sierra Blanca, TX; Depth - 6 miles
M 4.1 : 41 miles S of Fort Hancock, TX; Depth 6 miles
Jerry.
In a message dated 4/29/2011 7:08:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
It must have been less than 4.0 as it didn't show up on the USGS report.
--Ediger
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:19 AM, <[email protected]_
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:
Fires seem to be getting under better controll, but an Earthquake occurred
in northern Mexico about 35 miles southwest of Sierra Blanca, Texas.
Tremors were felt in El Paso. Some landowners have complained of sudden changes
to their water pressure.
DirtDoc
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Second tremor last night across from Ft. Handcock. BUT THE WORST news is that
Chinati Hot Springs stopped flowing.
Sigh.
DirtDoc
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There exists a bean with a wonderful flavor not only in it's taste,
but in it's fanciful story as well. I happen to love the taste of this
bean, and seeing as how many of this beans story's involves a cave,
and archaeologist, I figured I'd see if any anyone among us knew
anything substantive about these enigmatic beans.
A picture of the bean can be seen at:
https://www.sunshinefarm.net/eshop/storeimages/Beans%20anasazi.jpg
The most common name in use is Anasazi Bean, a name now trademarked
by Adobe Milling Co. It is also known as the Cave Bean, Anasazi Cave
Bean, New Mexico Cave Bean, and other predictable arrangements and
mutations of these names. It is commonly confused with the Jacob's
Cattle Bean, which is actually a New England heirloom dating to the
1700's.
I first heard the story of this bean as a child, before the daze of
the Internet. It was said that an archeology team discovered clay
vessels containing the beans at an Anasazi ruin. The size of the find
was large enough, and the archaeologist curious enough, that they
planted some. To everyone's surprise the beans germinated, and today
we have the once lost Anasazi Bean.
Today, many variations of this story can be found on the Internet,
usually with much more detail, and the details often differing from
one version to another. It seems quite standard to say that the beans
and / or jar were dated at 1,500yr old, and to say that the jar was
sealed with pine pitch / tar.
Various contradicting stories on the Internet implicate multiple
university's and even make claims of word of mouth verification of
these tails. One such story says they were discovered at Mesa Verde,
Colorado and then taken to the Colorado State University Department of
Agronomy. Another story claims the dig was in New Mexico and carried
out by the UCLA. Some say the beans were planted officially, others
say that it was the action of a rouge member of the team.
The company with a trade mark on the name Anasazi Bean has this
less glamorous story on there web site:
"Anasazi Beans® were one of the few crops cultivated by the Anasazi.
They were found in the ruins by settlers to the four corners area in
the early 1900's. Presently they are grown at 7,000 ft. elevation on
the same land the Anasazi inhabited."
Some people nay-say the whole idea of the beans ever being lost and
found. Then it is claimed that the bean has been in constant
cultivation in small gardens of isolated Hopi Indian populations
remaining from the time of the Anasazi. They claim various and
contradicting times of discovery for the bean by western
horticulturist, and that it spread in popularity due to it's taste.
I'm wondering if any of the digroes in our community can shed any
factual light on this mythological bean.
In the meantime, perhaps I should acquire a trade mark on the name
Cave Bean and start working on my story of how the Anasazi left the
beans as an offering to Oztotl.
Justin
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Civilizations Rise and Fall
Mother Earth Spins
Eternally for All
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Justin,
As to the last sentence of this most interesting story, do it.
Fritz
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From: Justin Shaw [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:34 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Cave Bean
There exists a bean with a wonderful flavor not only in it's taste,
but in it's fanciful story as well. I happen to love the taste of this
bean, and seeing as how many of this beans story's involves a cave,
and archaeologist, I figured I'd see if any anyone among us knew
anything substantive about these enigmatic beans.
A picture of the bean can be seen at:
https://www.sunshinefarm.net/eshop/storeimages/Beans%20anasazi.jpg
The most common name in use is Anasazi Bean, a name now trademarked
by Adobe Milling Co. It is also known as the Cave Bean, Anasazi Cave
Bean, New Mexico Cave Bean, and other predictable arrangements and
mutations of these names. It is commonly confused with the Jacob's
Cattle Bean, which is actually a New England heirloom dating to the
1700's.
I first heard the story of this bean as a child, before the daze of
the Internet. It was said that an archeology team discovered clay
vessels containing the beans at an Anasazi ruin. The size of the find
was large enough, and the archaeologist curious enough, that they
planted some. To everyone's surprise the beans germinated, and today
we have the once lost Anasazi Bean.
Today, many variations of this story can be found on the Internet,
usually with much more detail, and the details often differing from
one version to another. It seems quite standard to say that the beans
and / or jar were dated at 1,500yr old, and to say that the jar was
sealed with pine pitch / tar.
Various contradicting stories on the Internet implicate multiple
university's and even make claims of word of mouth verification of
these tails. One such story says they were discovered at Mesa Verde,
Colorado and then taken to the Colorado State University Department of
Agronomy. Another story claims the dig was in New Mexico and carried
out by the UCLA. Some say the beans were planted officially, others
say that it was the action of a rouge member of the team.
The company with a trade mark on the name Anasazi Bean has this
less glamorous story on there web site:
"Anasazi Beans(r) were one of the few crops cultivated by the Anasazi.
They were found in the ruins by settlers to the four corners area in
the early 1900's. Presently they are grown at 7,000 ft. elevation on
the same land the Anasazi inhabited."
Some people nay-say the whole idea of the beans ever being lost and
found. Then it is claimed that the bean has been in constant
cultivation in small gardens of isolated Hopi Indian populations
remaining from the time of the Anasazi. They claim various and
contradicting times of discovery for the bean by western
horticulturist, and that it spread in popularity due to it's taste.
I'm wondering if any of the digroes in our community can shed any
factual light on this mythological bean.
In the meantime, perhaps I should acquire a trade mark on the name
Cave Bean and start working on my story of how the Anasazi left the
beans as an offering to Oztotl.
Justin
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Civilizations Rise and Fall
Mother Earth Spins
Eternally for All
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