I live in San Saba Co and you might be interested in the Annual Drinking
Water Quality Reports for the Richland SUD (Special Utility District) which
is required public info.  The Radium levels are high but my understanding
(which could be wrong) is that there is no state or federal guidelines for
levels of Combined Radium or Gross Beta emitters for water supplies.  The
reported source of Contaminant is "Erosion of Natural Deposits" and "Decay
of natural and Man-made deposits" respectively.  We have been assured by a
chemist that Clark works with that the RO water softener we have installed
at our home takes care of these risks and that the risk is in the steam from
heated water.  Doesn't seem like that would affect cavers?  Not many geysers
around here -= just old geezers.
Respectfully and Happy Holidays,
Susie Giles


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gill
Edigar
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:48 PM
To: Aimee Beveridge
Cc: Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] San Saba County/CO2/radon

OK. But I'm interested in seeing a cross-section of the
sequence--including ground water conditions) above the granite (also
known to have radiation levels above EPA MCLs). That granite is pretty
hot, as I understand it, and decomposition of it could be producing a
lot of CO2 & radon. I don't think there would be much geothermal
influence left in the pluton but don't really know that and is one of
the questions I'm looking for somebody to answer. Also, was that area
not part of the Llano Uplift? If not, it is very near it. The caves of
that area have always had a CO2 content higher than other Texas caves
and which would seem to me to be unjustified by the decay of organic
surface material--especially since some caves don't take run off but
still have a lot of CO2.
--Ediger

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Aimee Beveridge <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gill,
>
> I'd bet that San Saba caves could could have slightly higher radon than
> background, especially if they are connected to groundwater enriched in
> radon and have little air turnover.  Radon gas is denser than air.
>
> You'd need long term exposure for it to be a health risk. Living in a
poorly
> ventilated house with a water well producing from igneous, metamorphic or
> coal or hcarb-bearing strata would be of much greater concern naturally.
>
> Most of Texas (including San Saba), has very low radon gas compared to
many
> other parts of the country.  Risk increases over the Llano Uplift and El
> Paso area.  See map.
>
> http://www.city-data.com/radon-zones/Texas/Texas.html
>
> The ash layers (bentonite beds) in our local Austin Chalk are somewhat
> radioative.  Recent studies of groundwater from Houston have shown
elevated
> levels (above EPA MCLs) of uranium and radium.  Tangentially, no level of
> radioativity is really safe but avoiding cigarretts, air travel and x-ray
> machines is helpful.
>
> Aimee
> ________________________________
> From: Gill Edigar <[email protected]>
> To: Cavers Texas <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 5:18:05 PM
> Subject: [Texascavers] San Saba County/CO2/radon
>
> For a long time after I first visited caves in San Saba County in the
> 1960s I assumed that the source of the high levels of CO2 were due to
> decomposition of organic materials that originated on the surface. At
> some point (years ago) after radon became a hot topic I started
> associating radon with CO2 out gassing and more recently wondering if
> any radon studies have been done at CBSP. So I asked my caver friend
> and geologist Steve Hall of Virginia about those relationships. He is
> a radon specialist. He said that the source of out gassing CO2 is
> often igneous rocks which are also a radon source. I started to wonder
> what the rock sequence was in the Gorman Falls area. How thick is the
> limestone/dolomite? What formations lay between the top layer and the
> granite below? Could that be a source for the CO2? Should cavers there
> take any special precautions regarding radon? I tried the internet
> without getting much satisfaction so am wondering if anybody has
> information on any of that handy. It would make an interesting
> discussion.
> --Ediger
>
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