texascavers Digest 28 Jan 2011 18:51:25 -0000 Issue 1235

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texascavers Digest 28 Jan 2011 18:51:25 -0000 Issue 1235

Topics (messages 16961 through 16974):

Re: The Real Sanctum - tonight on National Geographic TV
        16961 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
        16962 by: speleosteele.aol.com
        16963 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

Sanctum
        16964 by: Mixon Bill
        16967 by: Louise Power

an interview with a cave diver
        16965 by: David
        16971 by: caverarch

AMCS
        16966 by: Gill Edigar
        16972 by: Mixon Bill

Sanctum in SA
        16968 by: Josh Rubinstein
        16969 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
        16970 by: ryan monjaras
        16973 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

Re: Follow up on Hart Mt WNS report--not verified FYI
        16974 by: Louise Power

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& some of the pits are great repositories of marsupial megafaunal fossils.   T Jan 27, 2011 12:44:41 PM, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: I’ve been to the Nullarbor Plain and I can tell you there are no trees there which is the derivation of the name Null – as in no and Arbor as in trees.  However, it is (was) a good place to look for meteorites as it is a flat featureless limestone plain.  Any dark colored rock on the surface is a meteorite.  Some very nice and old caves out there with very usual salt speleothems. Geary From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:17 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Real Sanctum - tonight on National Geographic TV The trailers to the flick show the sotano in a rugged forested area. The Nullarbor Plain has few (if any) trees. Where is the verisimilitude in that? R Jan 27, 2011 12:08:46 PM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Overview THU JAN 27 8P THU JAN 27 7P THU JAN 27 9P THU JAN 27 8P THU JAN 27 7P The Real Sanctum explores the back story of Producer/Writer and expedition leader Andrew Wight, who teams up with Hollywood director James Cameron to make a 3-D feature film of a cave diving expedition. Cameron's film is inspired by Wight's true story of near disaster when his expedition team became trapped in a cave system in the Nullarbor Plain, Australia. Read more: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Overview#ixzz1CG9h35Cd --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

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I believe that the Sanctum trailer says the make-believe cave they're in is on 
a South Pacific island. 





-----Original Message-----
From: tbsamsel <tbsam...@verizon.net>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Real Sanctum - tonight on National Geographic TV


The trailers to the flick show the sotano in a rugged forested area. The 
Nullarbor Plain has few (if any) trees. Where is the verisimilitude in that?
 
R


Jan 27, 2011 12:08:46 PM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote:



http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Overview


THU JAN 27 8P 
The Real Sanctum explores the back story of Producer/Writer and expedition 
leader Andrew Wight, who teams up with Hollywood director James Cameron to make 
a 3-D feature film of a cave diving expedition. Cameron's film is inspired by 
Wight's true story of near disaster when his expedition team became trapped in 
a cave system in the Nullarbor Plain, Australia.


Read more: 
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Overview#ixzz1CG9h35Cd



Read more: 
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Overview#ixzz1CG9h35Cd

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Speaking of caves on Nat' Geo', there's some fantastic photos for your
computer wallpaper at:

 

 

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/wallpaper/download

 

 

Just use the "January 2011" pull down.

 

There's some incredible photos from the cave in Vietnam that is,
possibly, the largest cave ever found.

 

The shots look SUPERB on my 21" display here at work.

 

 

Man, I would love to go there!

 

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:08 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] The Real Sanctum - tonight on National Geographic
TV

 

 

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Over
view
<http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Ove
rview> 

 

 

THU JAN 27 8P THU JAN 27 7P THU JAN 27 9P THU JAN 27 8P THU JAN 27 7P

The Real Sanctum explores the back story of Producer/Writer and
expedition leader Andrew Wight, who teams up with Hollywood director
James Cameron to make a 3-D feature film of a cave diving expedition.
Cameron's film is inspired by Wight's true story of near disaster when
his expedition team became trapped in a cave system in the Nullarbor
Plain, Australia.



Read more:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Over
view#ixzz1CG9h35Cd
<http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/the-real-sanctum-6322/Ove
rview#ixzz1CG9h35Cd> 

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--- Begin Message --- They certainly do play fast and loose with geography. The original event on which the story was based was in Australia. The cave in the movie is said to be in Papua New Guinea, which is a great area for caves, but with its high relief, I wouldn't expect the very long, easy (except for length) sumps like in the original cave in Australia. And then of course some of the stuff appears to have been shot at Golondrinas in Mexico. Poetic license. -- Mixon

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Bill, Just keep reminding yourself it's entertainment, not a documentary. 
Louise 

> From: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:48:34 -0600
> Subject: [Texascavers] Sanctum
> 
> They certainly do play fast and loose with geography. The original  
> event on which the story was based was in Australia. The cave in the  
> movie is said to be in Papua New Guinea, which is a great area for  
> caves, but with its high relief, I wouldn't expect the very long, easy  
> (except for length) sumps like in the original cave in Australia. And  
> then of course some of the stuff appears to have been shot at  
> Golondrinas in Mexico. Poetic license. -- Mixon
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This is new and might be of interest to some of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52Y4XDy_Bg

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That is a fine discovery, David, of a recent interview with diver Jill Heinerth 
discussing her career in cave diving, with rebreathers, and on documentary and 
Hollywood films (including the filming of the Sanctum trailer in Florida).  I 
am keen to see the documentary she and Wes Skiles made called "Hidden Rivers of 
Florida" (which is not just about caves).


Roger





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From: David Locklear
To: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 10:12 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] an interview with a cave diver


This is new and might be of interest to some of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52Y4XDy_Bg

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Photos, please ask them to email:  <photow...@amcs.org>
If you have a photo that would be of interest please send it

For more information and publications on Mexican caves log onto:
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Project of cavers from around the world.

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--- Begin Message --- Re Ediger's recent invitation about the "AMCS Photo of the Week," do not confuse amcs.org with the Association for Mexican Cave Studies that is a project of the NSS and has published several thousand pages over the past 35 years after another AMCS editor dropped the ball. See amcs-pubs.org, not affiliated with the person doing business as amcs.org.

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For those who will not be in Honeycreek,

The Current and CD Exchange is doing a free screening of Sanctum on
Tuesday, 1 Feb at Santikos Palladium..  The catch is you got to get
tickets from CD Exchange 803 SW Military Road at 10:00 Saturday.  At
that time, I plan to be in the Sanctum of Texas.

Josh

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For those that are going to Honeycreek:


SEND A TRIP REPORT!


Otherwise, it's going to be a thin next issue!



Thanks,

Mark





-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:34 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA

For those who will not be in Honeycreek,

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if everyone sent a trip report, you'd be publishing a book

"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT 
GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778



> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:37:11 -0600
> To: kars...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA
> 
> 
> For those that are going to Honeycreek:
> 
> 
> SEND A TRIP REPORT!
> 
> 
> Otherwise, it's going to be a thin next issue!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:34 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA
> 
> For those who will not be in Honeycreek,
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Trust me, Ryan, that's a problem every newsletter editor would LOVE to
have!

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: ryan monjaras [mailto:trog...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:16 AM
To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; kars...@gmail.com; texas cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA

 

if everyone sent a trip report, you'd be publishing a book

"Semper Exploro" 

Ryan Monjaras

Maverick Grotto

Cowtown Grotto

DFW Grotto

UT Grotto

Bexar Grotto

(832)754-5778





> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:37:11 -0600
> To: kars...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA
> 
> 
> For those that are going to Honeycreek:
> 
> 
> SEND A TRIP REPORT!
> 
> 
> Otherwise, it's going to be a thin next issue!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:34 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA
> 
> For those who will not be in Honeycreek,
> 
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There was a rumor going around that WNS had been found in bats roosting in 
buildings at the Hart Mountain Wildlife Refuge in Eastern Oregon near Lakeview 
(http://www.fws.gov/sheldonhartmtn/hart/index.html) . Fortunately it has turned 
out not to be true. Here's the correspondence that references it (read from the 
bottom up). We're pretty far west right now, but we're still keeping watch.
 
> Louise Power
> Finance Tech
> Medford District Office
> 541-618-2211
> ----- Forwarded by Louise Power/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI on 01/28/2011 10:39 AM
> -----
> 
> Carole 
> Jorgensen/MDFO/OR 
> /BLM/DOI To 
> Robin Snider/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> 01/28/2011 10:05 Marlin Pose/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> AM Steve Godwin/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Jason Reilly/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Dave Roelofs/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Stephen Haney/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI, Jeff 
> Stephens/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Anthony Kerwin/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI, 
> Susan Lee/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI 
> cc 
> Louise Power/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM 
> Subject 
> Fw: Follow up on Hart Mt WNS 
> report--not verified FYI 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In case you got this rumor, it isn't verified. Good to know that no WNS
> has been documented (yet) in bridges and buildings. Fingers crossed.
> ----- Forwarded by Carole Jorgensen/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI on 01/28/2011 10:04 AM
> -----
> 
> Christine 
> Bates/BUFO/OR/BLM 
> /DOI To 
> Rob Huff/ORSO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM 
> 01/28/2011 08:54 cc 
> AM Carole 
> Jorgensen/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Cassandra M 
> Hummel/PRFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Christopher 
> Foster/RBFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Christopher 
> Langdon/EUFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Eric 
> Greenquist/EUFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Glenn Lorton/LVFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, J 
> A Vacca/SPFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Michelle 
> Caviness/VLFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Steve 
> Langenstein/CBFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Steven A Bahe/TLFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM 
> Subject 
> Re: Fw: Follow up on Hart Mt WNS 
> report(Document link: Carole 
> Jorgensen) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rob:
> 
> As I said, I heard it as a possible rumor. Glad that the WNS is not here
> yet. We do need to be vigilant and am glad we know what to do with the bat
> now if we find something suspicious.
> 
> Chris Bates
> Phone: (541)573-4426
> /|\^.. ^/|\ /|\^.. ^/|\ /|\^.. ^/|\ Myotis velifer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rob 
> Huff/ORSO/OR/BLM/ 
> DOI To 
> Steven A Bahe/TLFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> 01/26/2011 12:12 Christopher 
> PM Langdon/EUFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Steve 
> Langenstein/CBFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Christine 
> Bates/BUFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Michelle 
> Caviness/VLFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Cassandra M 
> Hummel/PRFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, J A 
> Vacca/SPFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Eric 
> Greenquist/EUFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Carole 
> Jorgensen/MDFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, 
> Christopher 
> Foster/RBFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Glenn 
> Lorton/LVFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM 
> cc 
> 
> Subject 
> Fw: Follow up on Hart Mt WNS report 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FYI
> 
> Robert Huff
> Conservation Planning Coordinator
> Interagency (R6 Forest Service and BLM OR/WA)
> rob_h...@or.blm.gov
> www.fs.fed.us/r6/sfpnw/issssp/
> www.blm.gov/or/plans/surveyandmanage/index.htm
> (503) 808-6479
> ----- Forwarded by Rob Huff/ORSO/OR/BLM/DOI on 01/26/2011 12:11 PM -----
> 
> Pat 
> Ormsbee/R6/USDAFS 
> @FSNOTES To 
> Rob Huff/ORSO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM 
> 01/26/2011 11:31 cc 
> AM "Holly Michael" 
> <holly.b.mich...@state.or.us>, 
> "Susan Barnes" 
> <susan.p.bar...@state.or.us>, 
> colin.m.gil...@state.or.us, 
> gerald.ha...@dfw.wa.gov, 
> andrea.v.han...@state.or.us, "Julia 
> D Burco" 
> <julia.d.bu...@state.or.us>, 
> "Rowan, Ella L (DFW)" 
> <ella.ro...@dfw.wa.gov>, 
> "Dixon,Rita" 
> <rdi...@idfg.idaho.gov>, Gail 
> Collins/R7/FWS/DOI@FWS, pdl r6 nr 
> forest-district 
> wildlife-bio@FSNOTES, Julie S 
> York/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, Joan E 
> StHilaire/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, Mitch 
> Wainwright/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> Elaine N Rybak/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> William Otani/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> Pat Ormsbee/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> William L Gaines/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> Clark Reames/R8/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> "Green, Gregory" <ggr...@icfi.com>, 
> jdbre...@blm.gov, 
> oriole2...@aol.com, 
> mallory.st.pie...@gmail.com, 
> susan.hur...@gmail.com, 
> kevin.s.war...@us.mil, 
> kher...@fs.fed.us, 
> crant...@blm.gov, 
> kendaher...@gmail.com, 
> mathew.j.a...@aphis.usda.gov, 
> cmala...@fs.fed.us, 
> moorchil...@yahoo.com, 
> ladyh...@falcononeservices.com, 
> krist...@sycamore234.net, 
> z.ruh...@nw-wildlifeconsultants.com 
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> lau...@dr-doo.com, 
> ella.ro...@dfw.wa.gov, 
> katie_ben...@blm.gov, 
> christopher.ander...@dfw.wa.gov, 
> jina.sa...@tetratech.com, 
> kco...@gmail.com, 
> basc...@fs.fed.us, 
> s.ad...@oasisenviro.com, 
> tannenba...@saic.com, 
> jco...@johncomisassociates.com, 
> John Comis 
> <jco...@johncomisassociates.com>, 
> kcom...@gmail.com, "Tannenbaum, 
> Bernice R." 
> <bernice.r.tannenb...@saic.com>, 
> "Liz Johnson" 
> <liz_john...@tnc.org>, "David St. 
> George" <dstgeo...@tnc.org>, 
> "Shelly Adams" 
> <s.ad...@oasisenviro.com>, 
> katie_ben...@blm.gov, "Laurie Ann 
> Ness" <lau...@dr-doo.com>, Betsy 
> Scott/R6/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> christopher.ander...@dfw.wa.gov, 
> "Warner, Kevin S. CIV NGID" 
> <kevin.s.war...@us.army.mil>, Annie 
> Tibbels atibb...@yahoo.com, "Karen 
> Kronner" <kron...@oregontrail.net>, 
> William R 
> Swilling/R1/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> matthew.j.a...@aphis.usda.gov, 
> christopher_r_anth...@blm.gov, Beth 
> Hahn/R1/USDAFS@FSNOTES, 
> greg.a.gr...@tetratech.com, 
> marylouschn...@gmail.com, 
> ndbarr...@embarqmail.com, Steve 
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> jsf...@verizon.net, 
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> lauren.wils...@us.army.mil, 
> jsf...@verizon.net, 
> michelle_cavin...@blm.gov, 
> ckran...@fs.fed.us, 
> hrichb...@fs.fed.us, 
> kpeyrol...@fs.fed.us, 
> jason.kesl...@burnspaiute-nsn.gov, 
> varan...@charter.net, 
> roberta.sw...@usace.army.mil, 
> merrie.richard...@gmail.com, 
> heatherfl...@yahoo.com, 
> jthawaii2...@yahoo.com, 
> jeb...@aol.com, 
> ike...@onid.orst.edu, 
> ros...@onid.orst.edu, Sandra 
> vistine-am...@blm.gov, 
> jamie.nel...@state.or.us, 
> atami...@dfw.wa.gov, Cassandra M 
> Hummel/PRFO/OR/BLM/DOI@BLM, Julie S 
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> marisa_me...@fws.gov, 
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> meist...@dfw.wa.gov, 
> twel...@fs.fed.us, 
> vicin...@hotmail.com, 
> guanogi...@yahoo.com, 
> ery...@fs.fed.us, s...@fs.fed.us, 
> k...@gorge.net, hrich...@ufl.edu, 
> batlady4b...@comcast.net, 
> megmyo...@happyvalleybats.org, 
> flib...@blarg.net, 
> kelli_vannor...@or.blm.gov, 
> gr...@efn.org, stew...@gorge.net, 
> sjfletc...@fs.fed.us, 
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> todd_for...@blm.gov, 
> robert_ronin...@blm.gov, 
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> brandipow...@hotmail.com, 
> kcole...@hotmail.com, 
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> Subject 
> Follow up on Hart Mt WNS report 
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> Rob, can you please pass this on to the folks on the call yesterday? I
> checked with Gail Collins at Hart Mt Refuge about the rumor that WNS was
> suspected on bats roosting in buildings there a couple of weeks ago and
> samples had been sent off somewhere. It is not true, no one has even been
> on Hart Mt for months. I'll add that while not impossible, in the winter
> climate at Hart Mt this time of year, the likelihood of bats roosting in
> unheated buildings is pretty slim unless there is a cellar or cave-like
> feature. Also, although we don't want to rule out all possibilities, WNS
> has been documented in wintering bat populations in caves and mines to
> date, no records of WNS in wintering bats in buildings or bridges yet. We
> don't know when or where WNS will show up in the PNW, however given what we
> know about transmission, I would expect to see it in a number of places
> before it shows up at a relatively remote site such as Hart Mt. - not
> impossible mind you and being on the lookout everywhere is a good plan of
> course, please do conduct a little follow up before going forward with such
> reports as it could be helpful and save time and energy in the long run.
> 
> A reminder that the protocol for submitting suspect WNS bats for testing in
> the PNW is to go through your State Wildlife Vets, I will send out more
> information on this soon. For now, those contacts are: Oregon - Colin
> Gillin (541) 757-5232 or Julia Burco (541) 757-5233, Washington - Kristin
> Mansfield (WDFW wildlife veterinarian):(509) 892-1001, #326 or Ella Rowan
> (509) 892-1001, #316
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> Please notify me as well if WNS suspect bats are detected somewhere in the
> PNW at the contact information below. Thanks, Pat
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> "Laughter is the closest distance between two people" Victor Borge
> 
> Pat Ormsbee - R-6 Bat Specialist
> Willamette NF
> 3106 Pierce Parkway, Suite D
> Springfield, OR 97477
> porms...@fs.fed.us
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> 541-225-6442
> c 541-954-0083
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