The Pacific cartel is 3 sub-cartels. And former Guate special forces  are amongst the Zetas. Caifanes?



Feb 6, 2011 01:35:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:

It has been a known fact for some time, here along the border, that Monterrey isnow controlled by the "narcos".  There are actually three cartels, Gulf Cartel, Zetas, Pactic Cartel.  Throw in the Mexican Army and the Mexican Navy (Marines) and you have a five way mix.  The cartels are actually out manuvering the Mexican miliatry.  The mexican miliatry has just been effective enough to disrupt things so that now you have the robberies, protection and other crap. 
 
Now the people in Monterrey with means no longer drive from Monterrey to the valley to shop but rather they hire private iarcraft to fly to them to the valley.  If driving to Monterry from here, it is best to convoy during the day only, even if using the auot pista.  Along the border no one goes into Mexcio at night if it all.  The good restuarants are now moving from Mexico to the US side.
 
As Gill says it will be interesting although if a revolution were to occur now the Naros would probably win.  Thye have too much money.
 
Bruce
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& for years, the Mexican constabulary/bureaucracy has been underpaid and individuals try to improve their financial status  via versions of the mordida.


Feb 5, 2011 09:32:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
What has happened, David, is that 3 factions (drug cartels, political
parties, independent bandits) have all been putting pressure on the
police & local governments to the point that the police are totally
ineffective and, perhaps, in cahoots with any and/or all of them. It
results in general lawlessness and promotes and encourages robberies
by bands of free-lance bandits--on all levels. What you have is chaos
and confusion as to what's really going on, where, when, why, and by
whom. The solution, when it comes, and the getting to it, is gonna be
interesting. And don't forget: Every 100 years there is a revolution
in Mexico.
--Ediger


On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM, David wrote:
> The U.S. State Department released this statement yesterday:
>
> "Recently, Monterrey has seen a significant increase of armed
> robberies in restaurants, coffee shops and
> convenience stores.  The robberies follow a similar modus operandi: a
> small group of armed individuals enter
> their target location, guard the doors and take purses, wallets,
> phones and other valuables from the patrons
> inside.  None of these robberies have resulted in violence or kidnapping."
>
>
> I saw somewhere else that they ordered their embassy and consulate
> staff to not be on the road at night
> around Monterrey, but haven't found confirmation of that.
>
>
> Anybody have any theories about how things got like this?    I lived
> in Monterrey briefly during the summers
> of 1987 and 1988, and did all kinds of stuff at night, and I never
> felt or sensed danger.    It seems to me these
> guys see expensive things they want, and they see that they can never
> have those things while working
> the kinds of  jobs their parents worked.
>
>
>
>
> Not related below, but worth mentioning,
>
> The U.S. gov't recently posted to be careful around water at 2
> particular hotels in Cozumel,
> as there have been cases of Legionnaries disease, suggesting it is in
> the jacuzzi's or the bath water, or
> swimming pool.
>
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