texascavers Digest 10 Feb 2011 23:21:16 -0000 Issue 1244 Topics (messages 17110 through 17123):
Re: Bear Grylls related
17110 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
17111 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
17112 by: Tim Stich
17113 by: Fritz Holt
17114 by: Mark Minton
17115 by: Fritz Holt
17116 by: Bill Walden
17117 by: Rod Goke
17118 by: Don Arburn
17122 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17123 by: Don Arburn
John Mylroie speaking on April 13.
17119 by: Geary Schindel
17120 by: Geary Schindel
Satori
17121 by: Jim Evatt
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--- Begin Message ---Someone needs to. You'll shoot your eye out. Fritz Holt <[email protected]> wrote: >WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in cans, >not >birds or other creatures. >I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music. > >Fritz
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--- Begin Message ---And Sir Edmund Hillary used to shill for Sears.--------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in cans, not birds or other creatures.
I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music.
Fritz
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related
Just like back in the day, you could get a gin-you-wine RAMBO™ knife?
Wheedoggies. Goes with my Red Ryder BB gun.
T
Feb 9, 2011 10:44:07 PM, [email protected] wrote:I can't remember if there is anyone on CaveTex that is a fan of Bear
Grylls, but he now
has teamed up with Gerber Company for a new line of knives and other
outdoor gear.
http://bear.gerbergear.com/products/
Fry's is now carrying some of his products.
Whether you like him or not, his name is now going to be associated
with survival gear,
like Eddie Bauer is to outdoor clothing.
It appears to me, the consumer will pay about $ 10 more to have a
Gerber product that
has existed for years, but now be available with the orange stripe on
the handle and
the letters BG on it.
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--- Begin Message ---I see they have a folding sheath knife. Uh, kind of defeats the idea of a knife that is rigid that you keep in a sheath. Why not just call it a lock blade? Durrrr. I want my convertible hard top. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Fritz Holt <[email protected]>wrote: > WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in > cans, not birds or other creatures. > > I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music. > > > > Fritz > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:55 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related > > > > Just like back in the day, you could get a gin-you-wine RAMBO™ knife? > > Wheedoggies. Goes with my Red Ryder BB gun. > > T > > > Feb 9, 2011 10:44:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > I can't remember if there is anyone on CaveTex that is a fan of Bear > Grylls, but he now > has teamed up with Gerber Company for a new line of knives and other > outdoor gear. > > http://bear.gerbergear.com/products/ > > Fry's is now carrying some of his products. > > Whether you like him or not, his name is now going to be associated > with survival gear, > like Eddie Bauer is to outdoor clothing. > > It appears to me, the consumer will pay about $ 10 more to have a > Gerber product that > has existed for years, but now be available with the orange stripe on > the handle and > the letters BG on it. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---So did Ted Williams. F. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:36 PM To: Fritz Holt Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related And Sir Edmund Hillary used to shill for Sears. T Feb 10, 2011 11:26:25 AM, [email protected] wrote: WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in cans, not birds or other creatures. I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music. Fritz ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related Just like back in the day, you could get a gin-you-wine RAMBO(tm) knife? Wheedoggies. Goes with my Red Ryder BB gun. T Feb 9, 2011 10:44:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: I can't remember if there is anyone on CaveTex that is a fan of Bear Grylls, but he now has teamed up with Gerber Company for a new line of knives and other outdoor gear. http://bear.gerbergear.com/products/ Fry's is now carrying some of his products. Whether you like him or not, his name is now going to be associated with survival gear, like Eddie Bauer is to outdoor clothing. It appears to me, the consumer will pay about $ 10 more to have a Gerber product that has existed for years, but now be available with the orange stripe on the handle and the letters BG on it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---At 01:44 PM 2/10/2011, Tim Stich wrote:I see they have a folding sheath knife. Uh, kind of defeats the idea of a knife that is rigid that you keep in a sheath. Why not just call it a lock blade? Durrrr.I want my convertible hard top.Hey, there have been hard-top convertibles for decades. My aunt had one when I was a kid. Recently they've made a comeback due to increased safety and ruggedness. Apparently there are even hard-top convertible trucks and SUVs, although I've never seen one. Check out <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retractable_hardtop#Retractable_hardtop_roof> <http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=434550>, <http://www.onlyconvertiblecars.com/convertibles.cfm?Top=Hardtop>, etc.Mark Minton Please reply to [email protected]Permanent email address is [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---The first convertible hardtop that I know of was a 1957 or 58 Ford Fairlane 500. They are highly collectible today. Fritz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Minton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Bear Grylls related At 01:44 PM 2/10/2011, Tim Stich wrote: >I see they have a folding sheath knife. Uh, kind of defeats the idea >of a knife that is rigid that you keep in a sheath. Why not just >call it a lock blade? Durrrr. > >I want my convertible hard top. Hey, there have been hard-top convertibles for decades. My aunt had one when I was a kid. Recently they've made a comeback due to increased safety and ruggedness. Apparently there are even hard-top convertible trucks and SUVs, although I've never seen one. Check out <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retractable_hardtop#Retractable_hardtop_roof> <http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=434550>, <http://www.onlyconvertiblecars.com/convertibles.cfm?Top=Hardtop>, etc. Mark Minton Please reply to [email protected] Permanent email address is [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
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--- Begin Message --- I worked at a Ford dealership in the fifty's and remember when Ford came out with the 1957 hardtop convertible. I remember them being troublesome! They weren't the first. I think there were a few in the 30's. I've got a '78 International Traveler convertible - the whole top unbolted. I rigged a rope and pulley system in the garage to facilitate easy removal of that very heavy plastic top. Still have that vehicle. It's a great caver car!Bill Walden KY Caver----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Minton" <[email protected]>To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Bear Grylls relatedAt 01:44 PM 2/10/2011, Tim Stich wrote:I see they have a folding sheath knife. Uh, kind of defeats the idea of a knife that is rigid that you keep in a sheath. Why not just call it a lock blade? Durrrr.I want my convertible hard top.Hey, there have been hard-top convertibles for decades. My aunt had one when I was a kid. Recently they've made a comeback due to increased safety and ruggedness. Apparently there are even hard-top convertible trucks and SUVs, although I've never seen one. Check out <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retractable_hardtop#Retractable_hardtop_roof> <http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=434550>, <http://www.onlyconvertiblecars.com/convertibles.cfm?Top=Hardtop>, etc.Mark Minton Please reply to [email protected] Permanent email address is [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---I don't know about those Red Ryder BB guns, but my old single shot, hand pump style pellet gun used to work great for shooting flies inside the house. It worked much better than a fly swatter. Fly swatters have two drawbacks. One is that flies quickly learn to avoid them. In many cases, it's hard to sneak up on a fly with a swatter in your hand. Get anywhere close and it'll fly out of range. The pellet gun, however, didn't seem to scare the flies. I usually could put the gun's muzzle within an inch or two of the fly without scaring the fly away. At that range its hard to miss! The other big advantage of the pellet gun over a fly swatter was that there was less mess to clean up afterwards. Swat a fly on the wall with a fly swatter, and you'd have a wet blob of gooey fly guts to clean off the wall. The pellet gun, however, would instantly dismember the fly into separate wings, legs, and some relatively solid body parts that would drift through the air and land on the floor, where they could be picked up easily with a vacuum cleaner, leaving no gooey mess. Sure, you say, but what about all those bullet holes in the walls? Aren't they worse than squashed fly guts! The trick is that YOU DON'T PUT ANY PELLET IN THE PELLET GUN. That way you don't shoot holes in anything. When you pump it up and pull the trigger, all that comes out the muzzle is a puff of compressed air. If the muzzle is only an inch or two from the fly, the air blast is sufficient to disintegrate the fly without damaging anything else. Normally, it's not a good idea to fire the gun directly towards the wall, since that would splatter fly guts on the wall almost as bad as a fly swatter. Instead, I'd usually position the gun at an angle nearly parallel to the wall, such that fly parts would fly through the air and drift to the floor instead of splattering on the wall. The same technique also worked well for mosquitoes and small spiders. With small, fragile bugs, the technique often worked best with the gun pumped to only moderate pressure (like maybe 4 pump strokes using a pellet gun designed for a maximum of 6 to 8 strokes). That way the air blast would be sufficient to instantly kill the bug without turning it into a gooey mess that would be harder to clean up. Tougher bugs, such as wasps, were hard to kill with an air blast, even with the gun pumped to its maximum pressure. I killed a few indoor wasps this way, but I don't recommend it, since sometimes the air blast was just enough to put them into a bad mood. For safety, I'd always double check that the gun contained no pellet before using it for indoor bug blasting. First I'd open the action to see visually that it was empty. Then I'd close the action, pump the gun to minimal firing pressure (one or two strokes on that pellet gun), and fire it in a safe direction to be sure there was nothing in it. (At that low pressure, even if a pellet had been left in the gun accidentally, it would have been blown out the barrel at a low enough velocity to cause negligible damage or safety risk when fired in a safe direction.) Finally, when actually firing an air blast at a bug, I'd fire in a safe direction that would not have endangered anyone even if a pellet had been left in the gun. That old pellet gun, which I had had since I was a kid, eventually wore out, but it sure was a useful bug blaster while it lasted. As they say on TV, don't try this at home, kids (at least not while anyone is watching). ;-) Rod -----Original Message----- >From: Andy Gluesenkamp <[email protected]> >Sent: Feb 10, 2011 11:35 AM >To: Bill Bentley <[email protected]>, Fritz Holt <[email protected]>, >"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Mandy Holt ><[email protected]>, Jenny Holt <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related > >Someone needs to. > >You'll shoot your eye out. > >Fritz Holt <[email protected]> wrote: > >>WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in cans, >>not >>birds or other creatures. >>I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music. >> >>Fritz
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--- Begin Message ---I got good enough with my Benjamin to shoot wasps off the trough. They would land on the water for a drink, and I'd snipe them from the porch deck chair. The minnows learned a meal was coming and would wait under the wasp. Don's iPhone. On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Rod Goke <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know about those Red Ryder BB guns, but my old single shot, hand pump > style pellet gun used to work great for shooting flies inside the house. It > worked much better than a fly swatter. Fly swatters have two drawbacks. One > is that flies quickly learn to avoid them. In many cases, it's hard to sneak > up on a fly with a swatter in your hand. Get anywhere close and it'll fly out > of range. The pellet gun, however, didn't seem to scare the flies. I usually > could put the gun's muzzle within an inch or two of the fly without scaring > the fly away. At that range its hard to miss! > > The other big advantage of the pellet gun over a fly swatter was that there > was less mess to clean up afterwards. Swat a fly on the wall with a fly > swatter, and you'd have a wet blob of gooey fly guts to clean off the wall. > The pellet gun, however, would instantly dismember the fly into separate > wings, legs, and some relatively solid body parts that would drift through > the air and land on the floor, where they could be picked up easily with a > vacuum cleaner, leaving no gooey mess. > > Sure, you say, but what about all those bullet holes in the walls? Aren't > they worse than squashed fly guts! The trick is that YOU DON'T PUT ANY PELLET > IN THE PELLET GUN. That way you don't shoot holes in anything. When you pump > it up and pull the trigger, all that comes out the muzzle is a puff of > compressed air. If the muzzle is only an inch or two from the fly, the air > blast is sufficient to disintegrate the fly without damaging anything else. > Normally, it's not a good idea to fire the gun directly towards the wall, > since that would splatter fly guts on the wall almost as bad as a fly > swatter. Instead, I'd usually position the gun at an angle nearly parallel to > the wall, such that fly parts would fly through the air and drift to the > floor instead of splattering on the wall. The same technique also worked well > for mosquitoes and small spiders. With small, fragile bugs, the technique > often worked best with the gun pumped to only moderate pressure (like maybe 4 > pump strokes using a pellet gun designed for a maximum of 6 to 8 strokes). > That way the air blast would be sufficient to instantly kill the bug without > turning it into a gooey mess that would be harder to clean up. Tougher bugs, > such as wasps, were hard to kill with an air blast, even with the gun pumped > to its maximum pressure. I killed a few indoor wasps this way, but I don't > recommend it, since sometimes the air blast was just enough to put them into > a bad mood. > > For safety, I'd always double check that the gun contained no pellet before > using it for indoor bug blasting. First I'd open the action to see visually > that it was empty. Then I'd close the action, pump the gun to minimal firing > pressure (one or two strokes on that pellet gun), and fire it in a safe > direction to be sure there was nothing in it. (At that low pressure, even if > a pellet had been left in the gun accidentally, it would have been blown out > the barrel at a low enough velocity to cause negligible damage or safety risk > when fired in a safe direction.) Finally, when actually firing an air blast > at a bug, I'd fire in a safe direction that would not have endangered anyone > even if a pellet had been left in the gun. > > That old pellet gun, which I had had since I was a kid, eventually wore out, > but it sure was a useful bug blaster while it lasted. > > As they say on TV, don't try this at home, kids (at least not while anyone is > watching). ;-) > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy Gluesenkamp <[email protected]> >> Sent: Feb 10, 2011 11:35 AM >> To: Bill Bentley <[email protected]>, Fritz Holt >> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Mandy Holt >> <[email protected]>, Jenny Holt <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related >> >> Someone needs to. >> >> You'll shoot your eye out. >> >> Fritz Holt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> WATCH OUT! My daughters and I own Red Ryder BB guns. We shoot holes in >>> cans, not >>> birds or other creatures. >>> I am a Bee Gee fan. They make good music. >>> >>> Fritz > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >
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--- Begin Message ---A variation of this was also one of the novel ways Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) utilized to dispatch people in the excellent Coen Brothers Oscar winning movie, "No Country For Old Men". Remember the tank with the hose attachment we used to also open doors with? Great movie and, wow, a creepy guy! Mark -----Original Message----- From: Rod Goke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:00 PM To: Andy Gluesenkamp; Bill Bentley; Fritz Holt; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Mandy Holt; Jenny Holt Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related Sure, you say, but what about all those bullet holes in the walls? Aren't they worse than squashed fly guts! The trick is that YOU DON'T PUT ANY PELLET IN THE PELLET GUN. That way you don't shoot holes in anything. When you pump it up and pull the trigger, all that comes out the muzzle is a puff of compressed air.
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--- Begin Message ---More importantly he did it exactly that way in Cormack McCarthy's book "No country for old men". McCarthy has written some excellent novels about the West. "Blood meridian", "All the pretty horses", and even the recent "The road", the last two made into movies. Don's iPhone. On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > A variation of this was also one of the novel ways Anton Chigurh (played by > Javier Bardem) utilized to dispatch people in the excellent Coen Brothers > Oscar winning movie, "No Country For Old Men". > > > Remember the tank with the hose attachment we used to also open doors with? > > > Great movie and, wow, a creepy guy! > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Goke [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:00 PM > To: Andy Gluesenkamp; Bill Bentley; Fritz Holt; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; Mandy Holt; Jenny Holt > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls related > > > Sure, you say, but what about all those bullet holes in the walls? Aren't > they worse than squashed fly guts! The trick is that YOU DON'T PUT ANY PELLET > IN THE PELLET GUN. That way you don't shoot holes in anything. When you pump > it up and pull the trigger, all that comes out the muzzle is a puff of > compressed air. >
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--- Begin Message ---Folks, Edwards Aquifer Authority is pleased to announce that Dr. John Mylroie, Professor of Geosciences at Mississippi State University, will be the Authority's next Distinguished Lecturer. The lecture will be held on Wednesday, April 13 at Southwest Research Institute from 9AM to 4 PM. The title of the talk is "The Spectrum of Karst: Rock, Climate, and Hydrology as Cave Controls. I think you will find Dr. Mylroie a very knowledgeable and entertaining speaker. If you would like a flyer detailing the presentation, please contact me and I'll be happy to send one out in a private email. The cost of the lecture is $20 for general admission and $10 for students and includes lunch and drinks. To register, please contact Elida Bocanegra at 210.222.2204 or at the email above. Hope to see you there. Geary Geary M. Schindel, P.G. Chief Technical Officer EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 N. ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TX 78215 (210) 222.2204 OFFICE (210) 299.5262 FAX (210) 326.1576 MOBILE
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--- Begin Message ---Some folks report that their emails to Elida have gotten bounced. Please use this email. If you get bounced, please let me know and I'll forward your request. Thanks, Geary Geary M. Schindel, P.G. Chief Technical Officer EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 N. ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TX 78215 (210) 222.2204 OFFICE (210) 299.5262 FAX (210) 326.1576 MOBILE From: Geary Schindel Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Elida G.Bocanegra Subject: John Mylroie speaking on April 13. Folks, Edwards Aquifer Authority is pleased to announce that Dr. John Mylroie, Professor of Geosciences at Mississippi State University, will be the Authority's next Distinguished Lecturer. The lecture will be held on Wednesday, April 13 at Southwest Research Institute from 9AM to 4 PM. The title of the talk is "The Spectrum of Karst: Rock, Climate, and Hydrology as Cave Controls. I think you will find Dr. Mylroie a very knowledgeable and entertaining speaker. If you would like a flyer detailing the presentation, please contact me and I'll be happy to send one out in a private email. The cost of the lecture is $20 for general admission and $10 for students and includes lunch and drinks. To register, please contact Elida Bocanegra at 210.222.2204 or at the email above. Hope to see you there. Geary Geary M. Schindel, P.G. Chief Technical Officer EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 N. ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TX 78215 (210) 222.2204 OFFICE (210) 299.5262 FAX (210) 326.1576 MOBILE
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--- Begin Message ---For armchair cavers: Satori, by Trevanian (nee: Rodney William Whitaker), the prequel to Shibumi, is due out March 7. Sadly, Mr. Whitaker passed away Dec. 14, 2005. A posthumous release, this is likely this is the last of his novels. Check Amazon.com for the synopsis of the book. It appears not to have any in-cave activity as Shibumi was infamous for. Jim Evatt
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