I'm with Sid and the NSS on this one. Most caves are in isolated areas where, should an accident or stranding occur, no bystanders would be near to lend assistance. Usually two or more heads and/or hands are better than one in a situation. Besides, fellowship and camaraderie are a big if not the best part of caving. A buddy would be able to back up your story (or lie). Another thing, look what caving alone did to David. :)
Fritz ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sid Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: [Texascavers] Basic Caver Workshop (no charge) i'll admit that there are a few caves that are safer than driving on freeways, and i'll admit most cavers are in good health/physical condition - but that is one of the nss mandates, and i'm sure you'll admit that by not caving alone, most of the survivors in American Caving Accidents fared a lot better than if they had been alone. i think that cavers should keep in mind that any bad press about caving, such as accidents, can have a negative impact on all cavers' freedom to cave. i also think all cavers should read the aforementioned publication as there is much to be learned from it. s ________________________________ From: James McLane III <[email protected]<mailto:themclane%40hotmail.com>> To: Houston Grotto <[email protected]<mailto:greater_houston_grotto%40yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:47:35 PM Subject: RE: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: [Texascavers] Basic Caver Workshop (no charge) Sid Just what's wrong with caving alone? With the exception of Floyd Collins' entrapment in 1925 (he wouldn't have died if the local coal miners had gone to work promptly to free him) I challenge you to point to even one single modern fatality that has occurred because a person was caving alone. Houston caver David Locklear used to celebrate his birthday all by himself way back in Airman's cave and he is still with us. Solo caving is a remarkable expression of human self confidence, ability, and presence of mind. It should not be disparaged. Jim Mclane To: [email protected]<mailto:greater_houston_grotto%40yahoogroups.com> From: [email protected]<mailto:sidcaver%40yahoo.com> List-Post: [email protected] Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:44:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: [Texascavers] Basic Caver Workshop (no charge) awesome. hurrah for justin. this is a great idea. i do hope he also stresses the importance of not caving alone, making sure others know where you will be and when to call for help, etc. s ________________________________ From: Mallory Mayeux <[email protected]<mailto:mmayeu4%40gmail.com>> To: GHG <[email protected]<mailto:greater_houston_grotto%40yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:13:42 PM Subject: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: [Texascavers] Basic Caver Workshop (no charge) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Walsh <[email protected]<mailto:mikewaustin%40austin.rr.com>> List-Post: [email protected] Date: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:51 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Basic Caver Workshop (no charge) To: [email protected]<mailto:texascavers%40texascavers.com> Basic Caving Workshop Texas Cave Conservancy- Winter Conference February 26, 2011 9:00am So you want to be a caver? You want to know the difference between Vadose and Hypogene and what clues can help find more passage in a Phreatic Cave System? You Want to Go Caving? This Day-Long Workshop is designed to be a fun and engaging time for the "beginning" cave explorer (less than 3 years-ish) who who wants to be a long term "caver". We will be visiting three great caves and have a captivating classroom session. Those three caves are going to keep you underground for the better part of the day, so your going to need to bring your clean caving gear and some cave snacks. The workshop is free, however some cash will be handy when we stop for lunch between caves. If you have any cave toys - cameras, survey gear, etc. bring those too. The workshop will be conducted by Justin Shaw who has been exploring and introducing people to caves for over 15 years. 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