texascavers Digest 15 Mar 2010 12:34:29 -0000 Issue 1005

Topics (messages 14142 through 14146):

Water and invasive natives
        14142 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
        14144 by: Nancy Weaver

>From the TCMA on the Punkin and Deep Preserve Porch
        14143 by: William Russell

Videos shot at Honey Creek Cave yesterday
        14145 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
        14146 by: Preston Forsythe

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Rain either falls or doesn't on the just and unjust alike. That alone  
determines how much water there is. Nevertheless, local summer rainfall  
depends 
on atmospheric humidity generated in great measure by transpiration from  
trees and other forms of vegetation, trees are just better at it. That is why 
 deforestation leads to drought. 
 
What is most important is that the vegetative cover be composed of species  
that coevolved with the suite of animal species that are indigenous to the 
area,  that way biodiversity is maximized and energy can be most effectively 
cycled  through the ecosystem. Texas used to be mostly fire controlled 
savanna with  large numbers of grazers and browsers, none of which, including 
cows, are  fond of eating juniper.
 
People are finally getting wise to the dire effects of exotic invasive  
species, but many make the mistake of thinking that just because a given 
species  is indigenous that means it is OK, but nothing could be further from 
the 
truth.  Anthropogenic disturbance such as too many hooved locusts and fire 
supression  can easily throw native plant species out of whack. 
 
North Florida used to be similar to Texas in many respects, fire controlled 
 pine oak savanna with many of the same species such as diamondbacks and  
junipers. The main difference is that in my area we generally have sand 
covering  the carbonate rocks so the place isn't as juniper friendly as Texas. 
Sandy soils  are generally acidic, so when we chop down our forests and then 
plow what little  soil there originally was gets totally destroyed. Pioneers 
got in a  few years of crops, after which a few years of watermelons, but 
after that not a  damned thing, so they gave up and ran range cattle which 
destroyed whatever was  left. Most areas were subsequently turned into planted 
pine, the ultimate  ecological insult, but those farms that were simply 
abandoned while awaiting  development reverted to "nature". 
 
The problem is that what came back was in no way natural. The soil was  
gone, the sand acidic, and fire was excluded by the zillions of roads, so  
instead of a fire controlled savanna with widely spaced pines and live oaks 
what 
 we got was an uncontrollable regrowth of damnable laurel and water oaks, 
total  trash trees that formed biologically destitute monocultures. 
 
Nothing, and I do mean nothing, will grow beneath a thicket of laurel oaks. 
 They exhibit allelopathy and kill everything that comes near them. In 
addition  to impoverishing the ecosystem they grow very fast and tall so they 
threaten to  overtop and shade out the live oaks. Unlike live oaks the damned 
things coppice  when cut, so cutting without stump treatment with herbicide 
only encourages  them. Needless to say we long ago killed off most predators 
so there are  zillions of squirrels to spread the acorns far and wide. Fire 
ants, Bt sprays,  and various unknown insect plagues have killed off all 
the pollinating insects  so now there are no flowers in Florida, and thus no 
herbaceous ground cover  plants to compete with seedling laurel oaks. 
 
Every knowledgeable naturalist in north Florida passionately hates laurel  
oaks, but few are willing to go to the trouble of controlling them. I was 
about  in despair until I notice something interesting. Stress due to 
alternate  flooding and drought made the laurel oaks susceptible to Hypoxylon, 
a 
common  opportunistic fungus that forms blueish patches on the sides of the 
trunks,  after which over a period of years they would decline and eventually 
die. The  live oaks were simply outliving them. 
 
Nevertheless I thirst for the sap of laural oaks. Some I directly cut and  
stack for firewood, being sure to poison the stumps. Some I girdle which  
causes them to slowly die without much coppicing, great for woodpeckers and  
such. Others I chop in several place with a machete then squirt herbicide  
into the cut. That causes weakness leading to more Hypoxolon. If there is a  
mature laurel oak not threatening any live oaks I leave it alone. They only 
live  about 70 years, by which time a live oak is merely a teenager, so in 
the  end the live oaks win. 
 
It is all a lot of work but well worth it. So are your efforts to combat  
juniper and thus bring back a functioning ecosystem, so fire up those chain 
saws  boys, all you need is gasoline, roundup, and beer!
 
Sleazel
 

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--- Begin Message --- generally enjoy and often agree with sleazal's posts, AND like most humans in this last one he presupposes that we humans somehow 'know' what natural is. as tho nature herself hasnt got a clue how to revegetate land and habitats destroyed by human previous 'knowing'. If nature sees fit to fill a niche with junipers which by the by, provide food and habitat for most of the small mammals and birds of central texas, it would be somewhat presumptuous of me to naysay it.

of course presumption is our middle name . . .

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To the Caving Community:

            In the name of the TCMA Board, I would like to address what I
know has been the subject of much recent discussion in some quarters:  the
decision to remove the second floor of the porch structure at the Deep and
Punkin Preserve, at a work day that will be scheduled at the site in April
or May.

            The Board deliberated long and hard on this decision, given that
it undoes some work generously donated by some of Texas caving's most
enthusiastic supporters.  As TCMA Vice-President Aron Wertheim has expressed
in an email: "The decision to remove the second floor portion of the porch
was not taken lightly, and it was voted on with heavy hearts and much
concern for everyone who has so generously donated their time, money,
materials, and sweat to get it to its current station."  That I would like
to underscore and reiterate.

            This unfortunate but necessary result points to some growing
pains within TCMA, as we learn long-term planning and management strategies
for our assets.  We are slowly learning to deal with on-going financial
challenges (ones which continue), and to work with preserve managers to
guarantee that precious volunteer hours and donations do not go to waste.

            The basic issue for the DP porch is that the project design got
ahead of the Board, and so there was no detailed oversight of the
construction -- proper plans were not exchanged between the volunteers and
Board, and the result was that the structure was never engineered to
standards that would answer to liability concerns.  When the Board started
to discuss the ingenious porch structure that was taking shape, a number of
people thought its safety was the matter of a few work days and some more
material.  That doesn’t seem to be the case, and so the Board voted to stop
any expenditures in that direction and to guarantee safety to the degree
possible,  in light of the information gathered.

            The Board reluctantly agreed that it would be cheaper in funds
to start over than to fix this ambitious but unfinished structure -- and at
the same time, we realized that it might cost us good will.  Nonetheless, we
felt we had no other choice.  Again, as Wertheim summarized:

Unfortunately, the TCMA, in analyzing the structure's potential costs and
our available resources, determined that we are not in a position to fund
further modifications.  Simply, the structure requires A LOT more heavy
steel and different building methods, and there is still no guarantee it
will be stable.

We have solicited bids from several engineering firms to evaluate the
structure, only one was willing to even see it in person. . . .  [It would
cost] $1000 each time the engineer went to see the structure, $2500 for
plans and drawings that correct any problems.   This $3500 is just for an
professional engineer to look at our issues: once.  The amounts required to
modify and correct any building errors are in addition and would easily run
many, many more thousands of dollars, even if cavers did most of the work.


 And these consulting fees would be multiplied by additional construction
costs.  The structure design was never certified by a Professional Engineer,
and it seemed at the end of our Board deliberations a bad use of resources
to try to remedy construction that probably needs to be completely redone.  The
Board's decision was to leave the ground floor of this multi-story
construction in place, which should serve as a porch until it can be
reevaluated for its future and for its stability as part of a permanent
solution.  The existing, unfinished structure is indeed attractive in its
inspiration, but the Board felt that this was the only way to avoid
potential injury or damages -- one liability suit could threaten the
preserve's whole existence.

            To all who have contributed their time, expertise, and money to
this project:  we apologize sincerely if our failure to monitor design and
construction up to the professional standards necessary for such a site has
caused you to feel that your contributions were diminished.  Such generous
work and contributions on the part of Texas cavers are rare assets that we
do not want to squander.  We need your continuing participation, excitement,
talent, and support, if the Punkin and Deep Preserve is to continue being
the resource for Texas caving that it has been under Geary Schindel's
exemplary preserve management.    We would welcome ideas for how a safe and
low-cost structure could be planned as a permanent porch, probably as a
single-story structure with a larger footprint and much diminished
possibility of liability from the various groups who have used the property.


            The TCMA Board wishes to express its deepest gratitude to the
many people who have devoted so much time to the porch projeqct under the
direction of  Jon Cradit  over the last two and a half years, and especially
to the Fort Worth-Dallas area cavers who provided the building materials and
talent,  to the cavers from the Austin and San Antonio areas and beyond who
provided labor, and especially to Geary Schindel and to all of Texas'
grottos who have made this whole endeavor possible.

            Rest assured:   the TCMA will honor your contributions in the
name of the cavers of Texas by seeing that materials from the structure see
use on the property for the benefit of all, and that we do a better job as
we learn to function as a mature karst conservancy -- only so little time
after Texas pulled off the miracle of burning the Deep/Punkin mortgage.  We
are learning what responsibilities must be upheld and what kinds of
communication are necessary between the Board, the membership, the cavers of
Texas, and the Preserve Managers;  we ask for your tolerance and continued
support as we grow.

            One final note - a bummer, but a necessary one:  anyone who goes
out on the property before the deconstruction work trip, please stay
*off*of the porch.
It qualifies as unfinished construction and should not be used under any
circumstances.



William H. Russell, President

Texas Cave Management Association


-- 
William H. Russell
4806 Red River
Austin, TX  78751
PH 512-453-4774
Cell 512--940-8336

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Right before a physically challenging caving trip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehOqScX2ovo


Shaft descent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icojO4fTnH0


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--- Begin Message --- Nice video of the trip. Descending singing Merle Travis, you have to love it.

Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY where Merle was born.

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Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:02 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Videos shot at Honey Creek Cave yesterday


Right before a physically challenging caving trip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehOqScX2ovo


Shaft descent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icojO4fTnH0


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