I have been admonished in the past for daring to suggest a TSA dues increase and was reminded that we are a not for profit organization. I'm not sure that I know the definition but it would seem that there would have to be a profit or sizable donations in order to purchase real estate for whatever cause. But, I'm not looking for a lesson in the law. With the questions concerning a possible reduction in TSA dues you would think that many cavers didn't know where the money was coming from for their next caving light. Since it is impossible to calculate to the dollar what expenses will be, there is nothing wrong with having a small surplus at the end of the year. At $20.00, any surplus would be small.
Fritz ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:34 PM To: Karen Perry; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA this and that This should be easy enough, Karen, but there is one issue: We would have to agree on exactly how many pages each issue should/will be in order to facilitate costs. This is my fault, because each issues varies in page count, depending on how much material I receive. The 1st quarter TC was 24 pages. The 2nd quarter TC was 32 pages. The 3 quarter Mega ICS issue was 64 (!) pages. (definitely not typical). This past issue was 28 pages. If the damn editor could make up his mind (and reliably get submissions) it would be easier to calculate. What size fits y'all? Also, there's only four issues a year, not 12. Mark ________________________________ From: Karen Perry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Mon 12/14/2009 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA this and that Excellent Q! Since the majority of the dues collected, at least in the past, were intended to cover publication/postage cost.......Maybe we need to look at the cost of producing an average Caver, figure in the mailing cost, multiple by 12, then figure the difference in dues and come up with a workable formula to make as many as possible, as happy as possible. I would, for one, like to know what the cost of the Caver, per issue really is. Let's do the math before we all are insulting each other more. (Right Gil? ...the USA comment) If the TSA wishes to give $$$ away to noble causes, then they can do fund raisers for specific donations, just like grottos & the NSS. Karen
