texascavers Digest 12 Oct 2009 14:01:10 -0000 Issue 868

Topics (messages 12292 through 12302):

a personal road-trip story
        12292 by: David

Tales of the Bizarre: Chess tournament in Carlsbad Caverns :
        12293 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

Caver Memorial web page
        12294 by: Ron Miller
        12295 by: Mark Minton

Re: [tlamaqui] Compa�ero con Histo Mejora
        12296 by: Mark Minton

Bat Boy in the News Again
        12297 by: Mark Minton
        12299 by: Heather Tucek

Mammoth Cave to restore tour trails :
        12298 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

caver bio's
        12300 by: David

old DVD review - Unknown World
        12301 by: David

Grotto Meeting Announcement
        12302 by: J. LaRue Thomas

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This is just a personal story, but explains how I ended up at a UT
Grotto meeting:

      http://davidsnewjob.blogspot.com/2009/10/austin-road-trip.html

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Texas Tech's Knight Raiders to compete inside Carlsbad Caverns
Posted: Oct 09, 2009 10:58 AM CDT Friday, October 9, 2009 11:58 AM EST  
 


 
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - Members of Texas Tech's Knight Raiders chess  team 
will venture into the world of stalagmites and stalactites October 17th  when 
they participate in a tournament inside Carlsbad Caverns.   
The officially rated blitz chess tournament, which is sponsored by  Texas 
Tech's Susan Polgar Institute for Chess Excellence (SPICE), will take  place 
in the cavern's lunchroom, which sits more than 750 feet underground in  the 
Big Room.  
Paul Truong, director of marketing for SPICE, said he is not aware  of 
another chess tournament that has ever been organized in a cavern before.  
"The message we want to give is very simple," Truong said. "Chess  is fun, 
and it can be played anywhere. We want to change the social stigma that  
chess is a boring game for old guys." 
Truong said the tournament will give Texas Tech, SPICE and the  Knight 
Raiders lots of publicity. 
_http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=11287497_ 
(http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=11287497) 


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I have recently done some considerable updating on the Texas Caver Memorial web 
page.

http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/index.html


Ron Miller, NSS 14908

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Hey Ron,

When I went to look ar your updated Texas Caver Memorial web page I got a McAfee SiteAdvisor warning that your site might try to steal my information. It wouldn't let me view the page unless I manually overrode the warning. What's that about? There's nothing on there even asking for information. Strange.

Mark Minton

I have recently done some considerable updating on the Texas Caver Memorial web page.

http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/index.html

Ron Miller, NSS 14908

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--- Begin Message --- It turns out Jim Coke did not have histoplasmosis after all. Now it looks like he has a weird bacterial infection instead, and he is recovering slowly.

Mark Minton

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:16:24 +0000
Subject: RE: [tlamaqui] Compañero con Histo Mejora

Elsi y Monica,

ahorita acabo de recibir mas informacion, donde me dicen que por fin esta estable aun que sigue muy grave, todavia el futuro es incierto. Tambien me comentan algo importante qeu al parecer no es Histoplasmosis si no un bacteria bastante atipica. Aun asi no se que medicamento le esten suministrando pero esta haciendo efecto.

Saludos

"Como no sabían que era imposible lo hicieron" Franco Attolini

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--- Begin Message --- Bat Boy makes an appearance at the Nobel Prize announcements: <http://weeklyworldnews.com/mutants/12569/bat-boy-for-nobel-peace-prize/>

Mark Minton

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Funny, he's back in the news!
And next month, Texas State (SWT San Marcos) is staging the musical "Bat
Boy"...
Strange how things all pop up at once...

http://www.theatreanddance.txstate.edu/productions/2009-2010.html



2009/10/11 Mark Minton <[email protected]>

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Go find out!
-Heather Tuček
UT Grotto
NSS 59660
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Mammoth Cave National Park Explains Plans To Restore Tour Trails In  The 
Cave 
Posted October 11th, 2009 by _Kurt  Repanshek_ 
(http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/users/repanshek)  
Time and use have taken a toll on the tour routes that wind through the  
subterranean labyrinth of _Mammoth  Cave National Park_ 
(http://www.nps.gov/maca) . And so, not surprisingly, park officials say 
there's a  need to rehab 
some of those routes. 
Through November 9 park officials will be taking public comments on the  
environmental assessment that examines the work that needs to be done. You can 
 find the EA at _www.parkplanning.nps.gov/maca_ 
(http://www.parkplanning.nps.gov/maca)   and even enter your comments at that 
website. 
The EA assesses any environmental impacts that might occur in the course of 
 this project, which calls for reconstruction of the trail surface, 
installation  or replacement of steps, upgrade of safety rails,
installation of lint guards  along the edges of the trails; and where 
necessary, installation of lights to  provide a safe walking area. The project 
is 
intended to alleviate continuing  safety concerns and address damage to the 
cave’s delicate natural and cultural  resources, according to a park 
release. 
If you want to submit written comments, you can send them to: 
Mammoth Cave National Park, Attn: Superintendent,
P.O. Box 7, Mammoth  Cave, KY 42259.  
Comments should be sent by November 9, 2009 to be considered. 
The fine print: Comments are  typically treated as a public record and made 
available for public review.  Individuals may request that the National 
Park Service withhold their name and  address from disclosure. Such requests 
will be honored to the extent allowable  by law. 
_http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2009/10/mammoth-cave-national-park-exp
lains-plans-restore-tour-trails-cave4727_ 
(http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2009/10/mammoth-cave-national-park-explains-plans-restore-tour-trails-ca
ve4727) 

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Have any of you ever looked at the biographical descriptions in a book
called "Who's Who?"

I was thumbing thru a copy this week, and I thought I would look up
several prominent or well known
cavers.

I found a caver who post often on Cavetex listed in the book.

Previously, I had thought that you had to be a politician, inventor,
celebrity, etc to get into this
book, but apparently they let cavers in also.

I don't know how hard it is to get a bio in this book, but I think
there is now an on-line process
to do it yourself:

https://cgi.marquiswhoswho.com//bio.plx?act=P&trackid=WWAP0000

However, with Facebook and other Internet resources, I am not sure why
you would have any
desire to be in this book.

David Locklear

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This is cave related because it mentions Carlsbad Caverns.
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I found this old DVD at Half-Price Books:

     http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5134XWV2Y1L._SS500_.jpg

I had been wanting to watch it for many years, but never got around to it.

The cinematography and the acting and the script were terrible.

The DVD has no features other than the original movie, so it is worth
less that $ 1.



Below are some comments related to the movie:

The cave scenes showing large formations were filmed in Carlsbad
Caverns without the
actors present.     The cave scenes with the actors or stunt actors
were apparently done at the location
below:

     http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/BronsonCave_eastportal.jpg

And there was quite a bit of cave science mentioned in the story line.

I presume that for the average person viewing this in 1951, that many
of the concepts described in the
script were not familiar to them.    Some of the movie seemed like a
documentary.

Apparently, cavers in 1951 had really good underground walkie-talkies.

I wonder if they used real cavers in the real caving scenes, or if
they just used stunt actors ?

>From a caver's point of view, I think the vertical rope fatality and
the aftermath are worthy of
discussion.      "He hated my guts, yet he died saving my life."

I hope the film-makers didn't damage the cave during the filming,
especially since this film seems
to have little value.

This movie could be re-made to fix all of the flaws, if they were to
avoid it looking like
 the "Journey to the Center of the Earth" movie and the re-makes of
that.    They should
at least redo the Cyclotram vehicle shots.

I am pretty certain that a novice group of cavers, could with $ 20,000
budget make
a better version of this movie, and apparently there are several
cavers qualified to do it.

Several of the actors smoked a pipe during the descent into the earth,
and I think they
did in the cave to.     I wonder if that seemed as odd then, as it does now ?

Ref:

     http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/UnknownWorld.html

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronson_Caves

David Locklear

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Permian Basin Speleological Society (PBSS) is holding its monthly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday the 13th of October (Friday the 13th falls on a Tuesday this month), at 7:00 pm at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, back room.

Murray's is at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.

Topics of discussion: the dig in Sonora (and apologies for the shorter-than-normal notice for this meeting--we were busy last weekend finding more cave), dig report and discussion of where to go now. Viewing the trailer for the 2010 NSS Convention in Vermont (courtesy of Rick Corbell). TCR attendance. SWR Winter Tech attendance.

For further information contact an officer: Jacqui Thomas
[email protected] , Sharon Long [email protected], (who is currently in Kansas are you freezing, Sharon?) or Bill Bentley [email protected]

Regarding The Hole News (especially trip reports): Kel Thomas
[email protected]

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html

The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on
January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated
Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the
Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the
cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.

National Speleological Society web page:
http://www.caves.org/

Texas Speleological Association web page:
http://www.cavetexas.org

Southwestern Region of the NSS web page:
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/


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